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SupernovA:
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15) will the con still be 18+
Yes, as there will still be liquor at the bar and mature art in the artshow and dealers den.
I don't wanna start a big argument about this, but there was a kid around at EF 15. Howcome that was allowed?
Dhary Montecore:
--- Quote from: SupernovA on 12.12.2009, 15:26:01 ---Quote from Q&A topic:
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15) will the con still be 18+
Yes, as there will still be liquor at the bar and mature art in the artshow and dealers den.
I don't wanna start a big argument about this, but there was a kid around at EF 15. Howcome that was allowed?
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It was the kid of one of our most earned staff members. That kid was under permanent and tight surveillance. It never left the side of it's parents and they took care of it. It was a very special exception because otherwise it wouldn't hvae been possible for them to attend.
ADDENDUM: Although it's obvious: No, of course the kid has neither entered the artshow nor the dealersden. All public areas are required to be held at PG rated conditions at all times by the rules of conduct.
Cheetah:
Dhary is correct. The problem isn't that we're flat out forbidden to have underage people at the location. The problem is that parents can hold us liable if their 17 year old breaks the law. (Which is what they usually do 24 hours a day when left alone.) We make exceptions for individuals who are irreplacable members of the team, and who we personally know and trust not to sue us just because they can :)
Cookie:
I also raised an interrogative eyebrow seeing the kid there (especially when she was at the bar, amongst druken furs).
Well i understand she's the kid of someone from the staff.. but i also bet she's not the ONLY kid the many people from the staff have..
What if next year 5 or 6 people all bring their kids?
EF would turn into a giant nursery..:) :o
One exception would become a rule..:)
Fairlight:
Cookie,
She was under surveillance by Lucy and me when she was at the bar. Apart from some of the dances and safe shows (pawpets, fursuit events), we always kept her to the hotel lobby area, and I noticed quite a few other kids strolling through there during some of the days.
I am sorry if this causes a topic of discussion, but the problem is that we do lack the ability to just leave Zoe back in the UK while both Lucy and myself take the plane to Germany... there's no grandparents or anything to speak of where we could put her for a week. The only alternative to this arrangements would have been for me to not attend Eurofurence, with the implications for events like Banner Brawl and the Pawpet Show.
I don't think this will turn EF into a nursery. And as far as I am aware, I am also the only staffer in this situation (who has a dependant child). Given the hours of work and the cash I put in before and during EF, especially with regards to the Pawpet show, I hope that this little exception can be excused.
Best regards,
Fairlight!
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