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vegivamp:
One man's freedom ends where an other man's begins.

That is to say, everyone should be free to do as he wishes, as long as he doesn't hurt anyone else in the process, either physically, mentally, emotionally or any other way. Including ruining the planet for those that come after us :-) Some people may argue that this should be extended to every living thing (veggie, vegan) but that's a different discussion.

So the way to measure your freedom is to look at the things you're not allowed to do, and compare them to this basic tenet. The more things you can't do, the less freedom you have.

Americans seem to have a lot less freedom that they think, indeed, but they're still doing pretty good compared to a lot of other countries.

Fawks Beaumont:
Yeah, that is true when you think on a global scale.  The fact that some countries are so strict on their laws and rules can make us that enjoy and take freedom for granted be shocked.  Mind you, this is really stating the obvious.

Zuki:
Being utterly horribly cynical here I think its a crowning achievement of modern democracy to make people actually believe they are living in a free society, while allowing international politics and business as usual to continue.

I guess the fact we can all say mostly what we like and not get tortured and killed for it something though, everybodys freee! To drink starbucks and eat at mcdonalds ;)

Onkel Kage:

--- Quote from: Fawks Beaumont on 08.03.2007, 18:06:48 ---Well, being an American who lives in Europe, I can say this much... Americans are soooo not free, they just think they are. :P

--- End quote ---

As an American who lives in America, a lot of us don't think we're all that free anymore.

Fawks Beaumont:

--- Quote ---Quote from: Fawks Beaumont on 08.03.2007, 18:06:48
Well, being an American who lives in Europe, I can say this much... Americans are soooo not free, they just think they are.

As an American who lives in America, a lot of us don't think we're all that free anymore.
--- End quote ---

Yeah, I guess that is true...

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