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ysegrim:

--- Quote from: Jet_der_hund on 09.09.2010, 02:57:15 ---Being charged for tap water was mind blowing to me. I have stayed in more then a few 4 star hotels and even 5 star hotels in the US and never once been charged for tap water.

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Well, to me, as a German, it is mind blowing that people think they could go to a restaurant and expect to get a drink for free.
It is absolutely unusual to order tap water in a German restaurant except for taking medicines, or for your dog (and fursuits don't count :) ) and even in these cases, I see no reason for a restaurant not to charge you for service, the ice, cleaning, and basically for the time you are blocking their seats for paying customers. I am actually surprised that some people
managed to persuade some patrons ... Personally, I consider this to be begging. I agree, though, that 3.50 is way too much (and that I generally expect a glass of water to be included in certain items, like espresso.)

nifela:

--- Quote from: ysegrim on 09.09.2010, 08:34:48 ---
--- Quote from: Jet_der_hund on 09.09.2010, 02:57:15 ---Being charged for tap water was mind blowing to me. I have stayed in more then a few 4 star hotels and even 5 star hotels in the US and never once been charged for tap water.

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Well, to me, as a German, it is mind blowing that people think they could go to a restaurant and expect to get a drink for free.
It is absolutely unusual to order tap water in a German restaurant except for taking medicines, or for your dog (and fursuits don't count :) ) and even in these cases, I see no reason for a restaurant not to charge you for service, the ice, cleaning, and basically for the time you are blocking their seats for paying customers. I am actually surprised that some people
managed to persuade some patrons ... Personally, I consider this to be begging. I agree, though, that 3.50 is way too much (and that I generally expect a glass of water to be included in certain items, like espresso.)

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Ordering tap water in Austria has been a thing I've known for years now and it wasn't a problem at the restaurants in Magdeburg either. Only the hotel decided to charge absurd amounts of money for a glass of f-in tap water.
I mean, if they charge like 50 cents for the glass, I'm okay with that - but having regular drinks cost LESS than plain tap water? Seriously.

Drift:
The hotel def. charges to much for tab water. But as we know that now, next year it should not be a problem to go to your room, take a glass from the mini bar and have a drink from yout tab in the bath room. For free! I actually filled my empty water bottle and carried it around in my back pack.

Mooie:
Not overly much to say, really.

Some things I personally found a bit towards the negative side:

* The con is larger.  Inevitable, but still... the cozy feeling is being reduced.
* Lack of space for being simply social in.  Perhaps use one "function room" for that?  At least after the SIGs have ended.  The game rooms were brilliant in that sense.
* Prices?  Not really.  Roughly the same prices I'd expect in bars and such here in Sweden.  But indeed, charging the weird amounts of tap water, even though I've been sat there drinking alcoholic drinks for a while, was a bit silly.  Oh well.  I guess I rather pay and get water, than skipping the water.  I do need to have something non-alcoholic in me every so often, when drinking alcohol.
And some more positive stuff:

* Room keys.  Just lovely.  Even if I got a separate room key when I arrived, that was no problem changing it to my con badge.
* Spacious rooms.  Great when having stupid amounts of things one don't really need with you. :P  Plus one does not have to be all over the one one share the room with.
* Great location.  Easy access to facilities nearby, such as shops and whatnot.  But okay, the secludedness of Ringberg - just marvelous, that too.
* Superb function rooms.  The 'main hall' was able to accommodate the larger part of the attendees, etc.  Maybe see if the full potential of all rooms were used, i.e. a room maybe was too large for its purpose while another too small.  I don't know, just a slight reflection.
Other than that - lovely con again.  Getting larger, though, so maybe is nearing when I might opt out, but that's not due to the con itself, rather the sheer amount of people.

I can also not see the problem with Zoe(?) being around.  She obviously loved the event and most loved having her around.  So, not an issue.  And for the morals?  Haha.  I shall probably not tell what I've grown up around, then.  So, nah.  Have a few more other kids her age around instead and it'd probably be even better.  Both people her own age and a theme she seems to love being involved in.

I also did not have any troubles with the hotel staff.  Probably it was a bit of a shock for them in the beginning, but they relaxed as the days passed. :-)  The mundanes were fun too, some more than the others.  Like the bloke and his boss who were sat in the Piano Bar as I recorded his boss nodding lots to himself.  Mmm.. poor drunk boss.  :P

Anyway, see you all, well, most of you anyway, next year!  Maybe even in suit... *hopes*

krakendwaggin:

--- Quote from: Dhary Montecore on 07.09.2010, 20:10:38 ---
--- Quote from: krakendwaggin on 07.09.2010, 08:00:19 ---(whoever put up that 'Ordinary Smoker - Reekus Fumus' on the smokers lounge, you sir/madam are awesome)
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*bows* Thank you :) I still try to get our board of directors to allow our security to have disinfectant sprayers with them :D

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Well I was saying that we felt like a zoo exibit when people went in there for a smoke, then the next day the sign appeared, it was awesome and raised a smile from everyone ^_^

I met so many awesome people in there, it better be back next year hehe.

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