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o kill:
During dead dog party when I came down in fursuit wearing my Sefurity shirt 3 staff members came up to me to tell me that I can't wear that shirt and that I'd have to change immediatly.

Eh? What?
I don't see anything harmfull in wearing a t-shirt that says "Sefurity".

After not complying with the request for 3 times I was finally told an actually reason:
"I't might confuse people into thinking you're are a security team member. And that there where complaints that people where acting up like security team members"
I didn't know security staff did service in fursuits? 0.o

I told them that I don't see any reason for me to change my t-shirt. (I could have but the only other t-shirt left was exactly the same.. So not much use for that.)

Any way afther I made them "clear" about how I felt about it they went away to check it out with someguy and came back later to tell me that it didn't matter any more because the con was technically over but also not... Yeah that makes things clear.

Later I checked the rules and yet I can't find one that would forbid me wearing such a t-shirt.. But I do wonder of one will magically appear next time after saying these words...

But still There are a few Dutch peeps with those shirts since.. I think ef 14 and we have never had any problems before nor have any of us tried to trick people into believing us being security.

Unrelated note: almost all of he people wearing those shirts are actually trained in security and/or first-aid. And are even staff members of EF...

Dhary Montecore:
Okay, let me clear up these things a bit.

First off: Thank you for your kind words. The other "guy" next to Gyroplast who picked up those glass-pieces was I. Gyroplast and I form the Head Of Security.

Regarding those t-shirts / jackets, whatever:

You ARE right that there isn't a rule about this yet. The problem is that someone wearing such a shirt gave himself out as "official security of eurofurence" and gave guests wrong information and even asked a guest to move to his room for nothing. There were some complaints about that from various, not related guests so we decided we would not allow anything anymore at EF that might be mistaken for real security.

We didn't set up a rule just for that since the incident at EF 15 was the only time someone so blatantly tricked our guests and there are very few who wore these shirts at all. We like to keep our RoC simple. The rule on which we might have forced you to change would be simple:

--- Quote ---The Chief of Security reserves the right to impose any and all sanctions against violators of these rules or those persons involved in any other unacceptable behavior. The definition of unacceptable behavior remains at the sole discretion of the Chief of Security and the Board of Directors. Sanctions may range from a friendly reminder to an indefinite ban from the convention.
--- End quote ---

That was also the reason why Gyroplast asked our Vice-Chairman if we make a exception for this because it was the last night of the con and you were in suit at that time. I can't give you a final answer whether we'll allow it or not in future yet.

Nobody except the actual eurofurence security staff officially enforces our rules or may use the domestic authority. There are reasons we choose our security staff very carefully.

But that little problem left aside I really appreciate your compliments and I'll gladly forward it to our team.

Best wishes,

Dhary

Tsanawo:
Ah, great...

Was it one of the Sefurity shirts? Or was it someone with a shirt stating security giving misinformation?
Because there are not a lot of those Sefurity shirts in circulation, and if it was a Sefurity shirt during EF15, the list of people actually having one of those with them is quite short.

Just to be clear on the subject, it would be a pity if the shirts and vests wouldn't be allowed during EF any more.

Dhary Montecore:

--- Quote from: Tsanawo on 08.09.2010, 01:18:28 ---Was it one of the Sefurity shirts? Or was it someone with a shirt stating security giving misinformation?

--- End quote ---

Yes, it was a male person, wearing a "Sefurity" Shirt who told a few guest that some event had been canceled, leading them to miss it and ordering another guest to go to his room for the rest of the night without any reason. That guest was the first to come to me to complain about "my" security.

Tsanawo:
I did see someone of to his room with Hoyt during EF15, but I can't recall if I was wearing my Sefurity shirt or vest at the moment.
I don't even know if that's the same guy, reason for seeing him off, which was also stated to him, was that the fine gentlemen had had a little too much of an intoxicating substance into his system and too little sleep, so he needed the rest.

This might explain the one thing, I don't know about the other. I'd like to know before EuroFurence 17 what your decision on this is, so I know if I can pack my vest, or need to bring along another. :)

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