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Opinion about this years pawpet show
lynard:
--- Quote from: Keidran on 23.08.2011, 18:21:06 ---Yah this years PPS was very rushed I know that x3 It was more like a suggestion for next year.
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Don't worry, reading through all those feedback helps improving (hopefully) ;D
Dhary Montecore:
After thinking VERY hard about something I didn't like about the show I actually found two things!! Oh, the show was sooo bad because of those two things!!
First: There was no ending-song! Up to EF 15 the ending songs were just great and it was so beautiful to listen to them during the year! I want those great endings back!
Second (Please ignore this critique, because I'm just to sensitive here): Violence. This year was good in that regard, not too much, but I really disliked the unnecessary violence in the show of EF 15.
So, bad bad show! ;3
Now seriously: Even without a epic theme-song this show rocked so hard! And thank you a thousand times, that you didn't kill any of the main characters. That made the show perfect for me. :3
Elfasi:
Well, I think I will add my feedback to the mix. Let me start by saying I very nearly skipped going to the pawpet show this year. My first Eurofurence was EF14, and I missed the pawpet show due to being ill. I've regretted that many times since, and tried to make up for it by going to the pawpet show at EF15 and EF16. The new Maritim hotel certainly makes the experience of attending the pawpet show a much more pleasant one, with perfect views and no real seating problems.
But, and I say this with the greatest respect to the Pawpet show team, some of whom are my personal friends... I'd nearly had enough. I'd nearly given up on seeing it one more time this year. The biggest problem the Pawpet show seems to have, is how long it lasts. Last year felt like the final straw at over 5 hours, together with starting delays. Time at a furry convention, especially Eurofurence, is incredibly precious. Time to meet all the wonderful people I only see once a year, time to see the incredibly talented events and panels people put on. But 5 prime time hours, an entire evening gone, was just too much taken away from the precious time I want for everything else and everyone else.
This year it feels like that problem was finally reigned in a little. After the delay, by my count, the show lasted around 3 hours. This still feels a little long, but far far less burdensome. I don't feel such an awful conflict between wanting to see the pawpet show, and not wanting to lose out on so much time with my friends. The delay starting the show was shorter, the delay between scenes was shorter, the overall show was shorter. Bravo and keep it up!
Now onto what I found awesome about the show, and how it compares to previous years.
* The new characters and puppets felt so damn fresh, it was wonderful. Maybe the old characters can come back some day too, but I certainly welcome this kind of injection of vitality into the formula. Forgive me for forgetting the names, but the white rabbit, awesome, the rat, awesome, the tigers, amazingly awesome (sorry to hear they're probably a 1-time only experiment), the dragon, bloody fantastic!
* New stage effects, another great injection of vitality and freshness. Fursuiters in the audience, new lighting programs that extend beyond the stage, elevator simulations, TRON sets, NERF guns, firefighting Dalmatians, and all the interstitial and accompanying video sequences on the screens (and the white rabbit's awesome secret den he spent most of the time in).
* The writing feels new and fresh. The white rabbit especially was an especially colourful and zany and very memorable character. Great voice talent too! But the whole story felt more tight, more drama and suspense, less serious and heavy, and yeah it did prod my emotions.
* The videos covering the scene changes were very good, a great variety, lots of humour, and I'd suggest if those scene changes really can't get any faster, it couldn't hurt to make those videos longer.
* The musical choices were nicely done, and pretty funny at times!
* I absolutely love that the sponsors got what was essentially a treasure hunt this year with the encrypted USB stick (the secrets revealed as part of the Pawpet show). That really makes us feel special, and really draws us into the story too. What a great idea! Reminds me a little of the zombie innoculations and cards they were handing out at EF14. Please do more of this.
* Nerd humour FTW.
I could list the niggles and problems I had, but honestly, it's nothing that hasn't already been said, and nothing that big. Bottom line, the pawpet show pulled back from the brink for me this year, way more enjoyable than it's been for me in the past, and I'm really excited to see what future innovations you guys come up with. Thank you all for the amazing work you seem to put in all year, all for my entertainment. :)
skyhoof:
In my opinion, the EF17 PPS was great, from a technical view. (Disregarding that the pawpeteers were visible a lot, but this was well commented before this posting)
You had gread ideas how to do some special-effects like animating the elevator, that was really great!
But this year the storywriting was awful!
Sorry, i realy dislike to use such hard words, but this PPS was the first one, that bored me.
I was realy pissed after the show, thinking about the fact that the PPS allways has been one reason why i stated EF allways as the best con i've seen.
This year, PPS sucked that mutch, i felt really unhappy for the rest of the evening.
I've seen PPS of EF 7, 8, 14, 15, 16 and now 17.
Until EF16 the PPS had a verry good balance between emotions and humor.
In this years PPS i missed both.
I remember a lot of funny scenes in the PPS mentioned above. Even from the PPS 10 Years ago ...
Hell, i loughed until it hurts at EF8 when the cristalball told "the ghost you've called is temporary not avalible"
And i cryed nearly until an half hour after the show when poke had to leave his love in "Dreamcatchers" at EF14.
But for this year, it's hard to me to remember a really funny part, and the show was just 3 days ago.
The funnyest parts of this years PPS were the szene in the house of the rat (l allready forgott his name), the screen telling "this video isn't avalible outside of china" and whenn Null said "Hello World - I allways wanted to say that" ... They made me giggle a bit.
This is not enough by far.
Not one szene touched my heart, and large parts of the storry were forseeable.
The show even had not a lot to do with this EFs topic "Kung Fur Hussle".
Well okay, the storry took place in HongKong, and we've seen one kick ... but where was the real action?
I don't tell you this to say something like "you sucked".
I tell you this to help, making such mistakes not again, next year.
Please focus more on storrywriting next year!
Cheetah and Eisfuchs, you're verry talented in that. You've proven this a lot in the years before.
What PPS needs is more drama and a lot more humor.
You've done that really awesome in the past, and i'm shure you can do it again.
Just hear what people disliked this year.
ysegrim:
I really, really liked the new puppets, esp. the large ones. Even for this being the first time you play these puppets, many scenes (the big leap during the fight, the dragon nailing down the tigress, etc) were absolutely impressive, and I can't wait to see what you will do with these puppets with another full year of experience! Please don't abandon the concept. By the way, it was also great to finally see a reasonable size difference between a tiger and a rat ...
Null and Void were adorable (even though the style of their puppets did not match in some way ...). The Null Box: absolutly great.
Regarding the story: It took me quite some time to get into it -- without any known characters, the PPS did not feel that much like "coming home" as in previous years. Also, I really liked the "one-gag-a-minute" openings in the last couple of shows, despite their serious story -- I kind of missed it in this show. Also, both the scene where Void got his memory back, and Null's monologue at the end drifted a tiny bit towards pathos.
This being said: it was just awesome to watch this year's show again, and it felt good to be a tiny, tiny cog in the wheel while still being able to enjoy every second of the show. Thanks!
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