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Skie:
I think it's been years since I wrote feedback.
Main Good Points
* Con Ops and the security team did an awesome job.
* My panel room was ready and equipped with everything I needed in advance and I didn't have to run to con ops like I had to in the past. Gear was top notched.
* Dealer's Den and art show were smooth. I never had to queue up.
* Breakfast ran awesomely. For such a big amount of people, the hotel did a great job with it. Also, in general, it was nice to see most of the hotel staff get into the spirit of the convention.
* The dancefloor was freaking awesome this year. I don't think I've seen something like that since the Ringberg. Sound was perfect. The ability to use the stage and dancing pool was great, and the fact that the space was limited to the main area and floor was wonderful. It was only missing the ability the dance behind the screens ;)
Main Concern: Hotel Space
The lobby is a cluttered clusterfuck basically. There's too many tables and chairs which belong to the bar, and basically no space at all. Especially at mornings when it's blocked for breakfast, and for fursuiters in general. I know it might be extra work for the hotel, but there's the whole second floor of tables and chairs that was always closed besides breakfast that might be used. Basically, socializing in this year was much more difficult.
Were there stairs to high floors? Why were connections between wings blocked? It just adds more elevator stress. There aren't walkways to every floor, but it could still help a little when you just want to visit another room.
Other Concerns
The dance contest ran very smoothly, but, I just don't get the placement of the judges. It's a failure Confuzzled done before and fixed. It basically makes the dancers dance to the judges since they are the front, and have their backs to the crowed. It would make more sense to sit the judges with the crowd (e.g. Confuzzled), or even just use the main stage for the dancing. I was also surprise there was no encore for the winner? I'm guessing time issue, but it's a big shame.
An Hinkley classic: The inconsistency of the bar food service. I'll avoid the complaint about tap water, which I never suffered from so badly in previous EF hotels, but I really hate the fact that you could order exactly the same thing twice, and get a completely different dish (e.g. amount of fries getting halved on the second day). That is not acceptable. I simply gave up on the bar food after a day. I'm guessing it's because the hotel didn't realize the amount of orders they would get, and struggled to supply.
General Recommendation
I think there should be an official dance on the middle day (Friday?), since there's always an impromptu dance anyway.
Hendriksen:
This was my first eurofurence and im certain that i will return!!
Good stuff:
- hotel staff: Really nice and friendly, I only saw one of them who didnt seem happy and by the end she smiled.
- The theme of the con: liked the idea, posters, baners, panels, decorations. It simply just worked.
- Work from all the volounteers and helpers: Did a good job and always there if you needed help and from what i could see did a really good job.
- Good variaty in different panels: a lot of good panels, with great hosts.
- The hotel wings: I liked that people were split to ease the stress on the elevators, at least they tried.
- The lobbies atmosphere: liked how it was built up like a market and it was central of everything.
- event locations: in general, the events were placed perfect, some areas were a bit small though.
- Dealers den: Great place, with a lot of Space and light. A lot of nice and friendly dealers who seemed to have more than enough Space for themself and their wares. Though it would be great to have more dealers, i liked it.
- Art auction/ charity auction: It just worked like a well oiled machine.
- The wardrobe NeXT to the dealers den.
Bad stuff:
- The lobby was to crowded: To many tables and chairs, it needed more room for suiters and non suiters. to walk around a socialise.
- Some of the panels were late and still setting up while half way through
- No stairs: I lived on 11 floor and what i remember most is waiting for the pawpet show and the elevators. Even though i lived almost on the top floor i would have liked to be able to walk up the stairs.
- Small panel rooms for some of the events: yeah some events were very crowded, would have been nice to have more room.
- Bottle necks in dealers den: Near the art auction it more than once ended in a huge mess of people going to and from. Could be changed by moving one of the rooms to another area so you dont have to go through another room to get to the other. Its not a huge problem though.
- Place of the hotel: The area around the hotel seemed a bit rough, though people were friendly enough.
And Skie, yes there were stairs all the way up, but you could only go Down...
Ralesk:
Random collection of things without actually even reading the thread:
+ Thank you and fokken finally for the storage corner at the dealer's den! Coupled with the lifts being a total arse this was a life-saver feature. Thank you for listening to our (my) complaints about the lack of storage :)
+ Nice and pleasant hotel, absolutely wonderful breakfast, a good amount of lounge space
− Utterly shite lifts and not much of a way around them. I hope the stairs get opened next year (somehow) — must be totally annoying for people on the first floor to wait 30 minutes for something that can be done in one.
± Not entirely sure the location of the two artist lounges were the best. I guess it would be better if they could be closer to each other somehow, next year?
− Dead Dog Party doesn't really feel the same anymore — but I see it's a technical reason at least in part (no bar and lounging area in the designated dance room). But it also felt different because it was just a smaller continuation of the previous night's party: same kind of music for example.
+ The Pawpet Show was great. Loved the theme, loved the performance, understand the frustration of those in the queue (I guess we got lucky: came back too late from the Italians, had a bottle of wine in the Biergarten, and all of a sudden people were gone) but it was handled quite well by AJA and Kage from what I've seen of it. They seem to work really well together, as seen on DDP day too.
± Location. Bit far from the lively parts of town, but not too far from civilisation. Can't really make my mind up about it — food sources and shopping places are within perfectly walkable distances.
− Location. Getting the city involved in our Fursuit Parade is one of the greatest — and imo most important — aspects of a fursuit walk. It is a real shame we don't have an opportunity to turn the town on its head like we had in Nürnberg and Magdeburg.
+ Totally loved Sardyuon's performance, he was a great choice for GoH for sure!
Alpha_Ki:
Thank you for your feedback so far. New year, new hotel, new problems and less time.
I am very happy that the Dealers' Den was wide and bright. Plus the option for storing the luggage was great - thanks so much for the Security offering this service due to the limited time and people you had.
--- Quote from: SiranaJHelena on 25.08.2014, 20:59:20 ---I'm wondering if the fact that you have to go through the Dealer's Den to get to the Art Show might have influenced the visitor's decision about where to spend the money. Are there any statistics about that?
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This is a question only the atendees can answer. I doubt that we can offer proper statistics on this one; both went well from what I heared so far. :)
--- Quote from: Jorinda on 26.08.2014, 10:16:46 ---For the Dealers Den: Someone could earn a fortune by selling punched pockets. Many artists offer unframed prints, postcards and similar stuff that would be easier to take home in a protecting pocket.
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Proper plastic bags are quite expensive for someone selling prints and sketches. You could have gotten one at the tables selling books. Most artists do put their prints in these protecting pockets but not every one. I will put this feedback on my list to the artists/dealers. Thanks for the advise. :)
--- Quote from: Fafnir Kristensen on 26.08.2014, 11:21:26 ---the less good:
- not really bad, but friends who were dealing in the first isle block near the entry where quite cramped and told me it would have been better with a bit more inner space, and when I see all the free space behind the larger tables near the window where almost nobody was, that should be easily possible without causing any flow problem.
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They never talked to me! When you mean the tables on the left wall when you entered the room - they had the chance to seperate, I had an extra table for at least two of the dealers but they prefered to arrange the way they did. So don't blame me for that. :)
SouthPaw:
--- Quote from: Skie on 27.08.2014, 21:54:31 ---General Recommendation
I think there should be an official dance on the middle day (Friday?), since there's always an impromptu dance anyway.
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DISCLAIMER: I am not EF staff. This is solely based on personal observations.
The trouble is that EF doesn't have a dedicated room to use for dances like ConFuzzled does, and this year there was a concert on Friday night, followed by 2's Rant, which would have meant such a dance starting at around midnight...which is far from ideal.
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