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Make a How to Elevator!?
DarkFoxDK:
--- Quote from: meo on 28.08.2014, 10:56:29 ---Somehow floor 3 in Wing 2 seems to be the deadzone for these elevators. the one on the right stopped there, the one on the left also. and when you say that nearly another one stopped there it sounds to me a bit fishy.
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It seemed like specifically the right-hand elevator had an issue on floor 3. I found that a gentle push on the door, just after it closed, helped it "move on".
meo:
I would have loved to talk with the elevator repairguy about these problems to get his insights. As far as i know these Elevators (by the firm Kone) didn't work by lightsensors in the door but by push ones. The Problem is that these didn't work quite well, to open a door by running nearly into it didn't stop the door, but a gently touch to the black sensor bar does.
As you can see Kone itself suggest to use the open door button when entering the lift.
Closing the door all the way seems to be a bit buggy (at least in floor 3) so please tell Conops, Security or Registration (at very last the repairguy himself) when that happens to say this guy he should do an on top drive to check the sensors. Most of the repairguys didn't want to do that because it is very dangerous but it is the only way to check the doorsensors at these models (if my files are right) and fix that problem. Anyway he should also check every time the doorsensors too.
Please don't ignore ANY bad behavior from the lift, even a squeak can be a sign that something nearly ends his life and while Lifts are extremely safe (way more safety mechanics as in a normal car) there are safetyprotocols inside the electronic that when something gives out an error (even if the cabine could go anyway) it stops and you have to use another one or the stairs. Note everything, make a list if you want but please tell someone.
A broken Lift is something that resultate in a lot of anger as you can see.
Druon:
--- Quote ---As you can see Kone itself suggest to use the open door button when entering the lift.
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I've never heard of a company suggesting otherwise, due to potential liability. A button usually can't hurt you if it malfunctions, a door however, can. That being said, I found the door sensors to be responsive within the range I expect from a usual lift.
My friends did run into the lift technician once and found him thoroughly testing a just fixed lift by running it all the way up and down, checking the doors on each floor. I doubt he needs us to tell him how to do his job. I think the Estrel just didn't expect that such a technician would pretty much be needed to be present for on-call duty within the hotel 24/7 - something the Maritim had to learn the hard way, too.
--- Quote ---Please don't ignore ANY bad behavior from the lift, even a squeak can be a sign [...] Note everything, make a list if you want but please tell someone.
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So what percentage of attendees do have the skills and knowledge to tell what squeaks are perfectly normal and what is a sign of a potential problem? And how do you expect ConOps, Security or reception staff to weed out information about suspicious sounds, because they also don't necessarily know about the qualifications of the one reporting? Don't get me wrong, I am all for reporting obvious issues, like a door opening several times at one floor for no apparent reason. But beyond that the majority of us hardly are qualified to read into things. And neither should we run around during a convention with a list to keep monitoring the lifts. That is the job for the hotel staff. And I am positive they will be better prepared next year to keep those lifts running - at the very least by having the necessary personal at hand right away to cut down maintenance/repair time.
Tinka:
I can see Anthrocon/EF growing a bit more and one day hiring a lift repair man just be on-site during the convention xP
Atkelar:
--- Quote from: Tinka on 30.08.2014, 16:02:24 ---I can see Anthrocon/EF growing a bit more and one day hiring a lift repair man just be on-site during the convention xP
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During the last years at the Maritim, the hotel had exactly that. Repair man on site during the entire con. At least that's the story I keep hearing :)
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