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Official Statement Regarding the Policy Debate on Twitter
Eisfuchs:
Yes,make the rules more complex, that will always help. Even considering that they have been unchanged for years and worked perfectly since then. We all agree that an outburst on twitter justifies this measure, even exceptions to rules agreed upon before registering.
Cheetah:
--- Quote from: Ralphie Raccoon on 10.06.2015, 13:24:35 ---I think that perhaps in this case, it is worth spelling out the rules more specifically in terms of fetishes, listing items of apparel and other articles that are permitted and that are banned, and a clause to ask permission for anything else.
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Thanks for your suggestion - we've considered that before. Unfortunately, as Eisfuchs said, making the rules more specific can actually make them worse. A significant part of the current outrage is already about the question why we are (seemingly) singling out specific groups, people are getting offended, expect a political agenda because we "ban" group A while not mentioning group B ... People have gone so far, as to claim that the item list in the RoC is actually my personal "hate list", sorted by my personal priority. And some people see rules as a challenge to find the one item you missed. We don't really want to encougare playing that game.
Ralphie Raccoon:
I would cite the example of the Cfz weapons policy as an example where a rule revision really helped. As it was a Medieval theme, the staff anticipated many people would want to bring imitation weapons. As a result, they revised the rules on them to make them more specific and clear, and people were generally happy about it. Just make it really clear that anything not on the list has to be cleared with a member of staff before the convention or it will not be permitted.
Even if you don't want to do that, I think it might be worth making a public statement anyway just clarifying if wearing a pacifier or a sleeper is permitted in convention areas (I'm going to assume an exposed diaper is not). A strict reading of the rules would say no, but the example is gave with Cfz shows that they aren't usually read that strictly.
I think I should state right now that I am not a babyfur, so I don't have any personal beef with these events.
--- Quote from: Eisfuchs on 10.06.2015, 13:40:14 ---Yes,make the rules more complex, that will always help. Even considering that they have been unchanged for years and worked perfectly since then. We all agree that an outburst on twitter justifies this measure, even exceptions to rules agreed upon before registering.
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There's no need to be so snarky, thankyou.
Cairyn:
--- Quote from: Ralphie Raccoon on 10.06.2015, 14:25:57 ---Even if you don't want to do that, I think it might be worth making a public statement anyway just clarifying if wearing a pacifier or a sleeper is permitted in convention areas (I'm going to assume an exposed diaper is not). A strict reading of the rules would say no, but the example is gave with Cfz shows that they aren't usually read that strictly.
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A little bit of common sense goes a long way, I think. The hotel lobby is a public area. Would you go to a restaurant wearing pajamas? Would you suck on a pacifier while riding the subway?
I like to believe that the overwhelming majority of attendees is happy to apply that measure of common sense. Those who are not, are most likely intentionally looking to make trouble, and no amount of specification in the rules is going to deter them.
Giza:
--- Quote from: timoran on 10.06.2015, 01:22:43 ---During both this incident and the incident around EF's refusal to refund a membership for a dealer in January, several members of the EF staff made comments on their (yes, personal, but very much public and identified as EF staff) Twitter accounts to leave the impression that Americans are unwelcome at Eurofurence. This includes one of the members of the EF Board of Directors.
Do the other members of the Board share this anti-American sentiment? Could this be clarified? I have seen that American visitors to EF are no insignificant number, based on the nosecount page.
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This American attendee (EF 10) and Staff Member (EF 20) has never been made to feel unwelcome at Eurofurence.
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