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EF24 Feedback (Many points)
Rishary:
--- Quote from: Nosnibor on 01.09.2018, 16:28:34 ---
--- Quote from: Cifer on 01.09.2018, 15:29:07 ---The perk part is the fact that they get to enjoy the Dealer's Den first, with less queue time outside, less crowd inside and while the air is still breathable.
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This.
How about having sponsor/supersponsor hours on Friday? Then the sponsors could still enjoy the less crowded Den, and everybody afraid to miss anything can queue all they want on Thursday.
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This is a wonderful idea and I think it's absolutely perfect and elegant!
Kulze:
--- Quote from: Rishary on 01.09.2018, 16:26:32 ---I would like to be proven wrong on the following statement - Early access can cause certain people to be upset while simultaneously not helping the con get more sponsors.
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You want something proven which can't be done without quite a bit of effort.
To actually prove this, you would need to hold the EF at least 2 times without this in effect, the first year nobody will know about it and be pissed, causing massive lines for the Dealer's then at initial opening, leaving half the line to miss out on the Fursuit parade + being in the way of such.
The Second year, the problem would stay the same, leaving those problems in place while we can then actually see the number.
So even with the proof, the surrounding problems would still not be alleviated, which means massive crowds at the opening time, and that's contra-productive to everyone.
As it was said before, it's the task of the specific Artists to work with the system, it's well known and many adapt, some don't. Getting a space for a commission at a con is definitely easier then otherwise, that's why the Supersonsor is in high regard.
So, given all that, I would rather want to hear the thought process of why you think it even would raise the amount of Sponsors rather then lower it, which in this direction makes far more sense, as the incentive for buying a Supersonsor is rather to get better stuff then not buying it because you don't like the system.
Skie:
--- Quote from: Nosnibor on 01.09.2018, 16:28:34 ---
--- Quote from: Cifer on 01.09.2018, 15:29:07 ---The perk part is the fact that they get to enjoy the Dealer's Den first, with less queue time outside, less crowd inside and while the air is still breathable.
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This.
How about having sponsor/supersponsor hours on Friday? Then the sponsors could still enjoy the less crowded Den, and everybody afraid to miss anything can queue all they want on Thursday.
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Love it. Doubt EF would change anything regarding this, but I will suggest it in other conventions. :)
Alpha_Ki:
--- Quote ---... early access is just commission tax ...
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Sorry to say but "nope". I know that in the US cons handle the money and pay out the artist minus the states' tax. In Germany Eurofurence don't touch the money at all - every artist has to do his/her own taxes as a freelancer, artist or whatsoever. This also includes the artists from outside Germany.
And a lot of artists do daily slots. So most of the supersonsors and sponsors are after the limited items like prints or t-shirts. So if you really like a commission from an artist you storm in early at Friday or Saturday or ask if they are willing to do a sketch commission outside the convention. Most of them do. You just have to ask nicely. :)
Rishary:
--- Quote from: Alpha_Ki on 02.09.2018, 17:50:21 ---
--- Quote ---... early access is just commission tax ...
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Sorry to say but "nope". I know that in the US cons handle the money and pay out the artist minus the states' tax. In Germany Eurofurence don't touch the money at all - every artist has to do his/her own taxes as a freelancer, artist or whatsoever. This also includes the artists from outside Germany.
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The word "tax" wasn't used here in the literal way. In this context it is just "An extra payment that you have to make in order to commission", sorry if this was unclear.
--- Quote from: Alpha_Ki on 02.09.2018, 17:50:21 ---And a lot of artists do daily slots. So most of the supersonsors and sponsors are after the limited items like prints or t-shirts. So if you really like a commission from an artist you storm in early at Friday or Saturday or ask if they are willing to do a sketch commission outside the convention. Most of them do. You just have to ask nicely. :)
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If it is still possible to get commissions/short supply items, this would mean that the supersponsor perk is diminished in this regard and will not lure people to super sponsor (As previously suggested, move the early access to Friday).
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