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Title: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Edelweiss on 22.08.2008, 19:59:03

What about the idea of an common place with hooks and strings and at least one fan where you can hang your fursuits/undersuits to dry them after they have been sweated?

Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Suran on 22.08.2008, 20:12:02
Then we need enough people who have a cold to get suits in and out of there.

Any being with a working olfactorial sense wouldn't go anywhere near that area.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: K9Primate on 22.08.2008, 21:00:17
Actually the sweat itself is not what causes the smell, however the bacteria that flourish in such an environment is.
Theoretically if you were to prevent the bacteria from multiplying, it should give little or no smell. ::)
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: o'wolf on 22.08.2008, 21:06:11
What about the idea of an common place with hooks and strings and at least one fan where you can hang your fursuits/undersuits to dry them after they have been sweated?

In each one's room, preferably in the bathroom. But NOT on a sprinkler head!
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Edelweiss on 22.08.2008, 21:11:22
>Any being with a working olfactorial sense wouldn't go anywhere near that area.

And my intention is to dry and air out the suit fast and well before the germs multiply, there will be certainly more "uargh!!!" if you dont do this.

Of course most fursuiters do this in their rooms, but i think it might work better if we dedicate an edge of the fursuiter area or something similar to this purpose with an more powerful fan and more convenient attachment points to hang the suits on.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Suran on 22.08.2008, 21:13:48
What about the idea of an common place with hooks and strings and at least one fan where you can hang your fursuits/undersuits to dry them after they have been sweated?

Is there something in the bathroom to hang a heavy suit on?
The bars of the shower-curtain are NOT a good idea.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Suran on 22.08.2008, 21:16:13
BTW: I have seen clothes hangers for diver-wetsuits with an integrated fan.
Does anyone know where to get some of these (for 220V).
Certainly looks much better then improvising your own with plastic-pipes.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Runo on 22.08.2008, 21:34:46
You know how to use google, right? The first hit I got with my first set of search terms was this: http://www.medirescue.com/html/body_e-ukd-bugel.html (http://www.medirescue.com/html/body_e-ukd-bugel.html)...

Jojo
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Furvan on 22.08.2008, 22:01:17
If all works fine, the fursuit loungue will provide head and body drying equipment.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Kitt Spidox on 22.08.2008, 22:12:08
BTW: I have seen clothes hangers for diver-wetsuits with an integrated fan.
Does anyone know where to get some of these (for 220V).
Certainly looks much better then improvising your own with plastic-pipes.

umm i think fetish zone do them though when i was making an order for some other things they were sold out (i pouted lots ^,,^)
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Suran on 23.08.2008, 06:51:29
You know how to use google, right? The first hit I got with my first set of search terms was this: http://www.medirescue.com/html/body_e-ukd-bugel.html (http://www.medirescue.com/html/body_e-ukd-bugel.html)...

Jojo

Thanks! I didn't know there was a 220V-version of this one.

I was wondering of there where other models.
I don't trust plastic much with the weight of a sweaty fursuit.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Kisu on 23.08.2008, 09:21:34
Kimono hangers are perfect for hanging a suit :3
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Suran on 23.08.2008, 10:15:16
Kimono hangers are perfect for hanging a suit :3

Thanks for the info. They look quite sturdy.
But they seem to have nothing in common with drying the suit while it hangs.

PS:
I just ordered such a HangAir for about 50eur including shipping and handling.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Lokosicek on 23.08.2008, 12:10:39
Hmm, Loko must think of some way to dry his suit quickly too. Propably he will bring his hair-fan to the con. Bit of hot air (from a safe distance) may do the trick.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Suran on 23.08.2008, 13:08:49
Hmm, Loko must think of some way to dry his suit quickly too. Propably he will bring his hair-fan to the con. Bit of hot air (from a safe distance) may do the trick.

While you still have time, better shop for a small ventilator or a blow-dryer with a "cold"-setting.
Don't take the chance especially because you need to get the air-flow inside the fursuit. So either you
have no airflow or very hot air. Drying from the outside acomplishes nothing.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Lokosicek on 23.08.2008, 13:15:55
And If I use a bit of czechnology (in its positive meaning), attatch a hose to the fan, and lead it inside the suit? Setting the fan at minimum temperature and maximum air flow ensures air cold enough to not cause any damage. I already learned that. Or I can seal the suit in a bag with two openings, and fan attatched to one side = stable flow of air through the entire suit.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Edelweiss on 23.08.2008, 16:22:09
> If all works fine, the fursuit loungue will provide head and body drying equipment.
I meant exactly something like this.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Lokosicek on 23.08.2008, 16:45:43
> If all works fine, the fursuit loungue will provide head and body drying equipment.
I meant exactly something like this.

Mayhaps, but they will still be very short, since we have 250 fursuiters (out of 777 attendees). Lotsa fur to dry.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: fluffy52 on 26.05.2009, 21:03:10
Hi I'm Fluffy,

The Uk hangairs are great for to dry your fursuit.
You can find them in www.furryshop.nl
I'm also in the dealers with UK Hangairs on the EF 15

See you on the EF

Fluffy
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Suran on 26.05.2009, 21:03:35


Current status:
The original fan was not powerfull enough for a heavy, padded suit.
I have build a 138W-version that runs on 230V and on 110V.
http://fursuit.de/cms/index.php/Benutzer:Suran/Dryer
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Barney on 26.05.2009, 21:35:12
Current status:
The original fan was not powerfull enough for a heavy, padded suit.
I have build a 138W-version that runs on 230V and on 110V.
http://fursuit.de/cms/index.php/Benutzer:Suran/Dryer

Having a closer look at how such a thing looks I am totally doing it wrong... Back to the drawingboard for me.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Loewi on 26.05.2009, 21:48:55
Hi I'm Fluffy,

The Uk hangairs are great for to dry your fursuit.
You can find them in www.furryshop.nl
I'm also in the dealers with UK Hangairs on the EF 15

See you on the EF

Fluffy

Im sorry, but when do you realise that you are still on the waiting List?
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Gyroplast on 27.05.2009, 10:33:52
Im sorry, but when do you realise that you are still on the waiting List?

Luschi confirmed his table on 19.04. Obviously not everyone realizes that this confirmation is only valid for people who actually have a valid EF registration in the first place.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Loewi on 27.05.2009, 10:37:01
Im sorry, but when do you realise that you are still on the waiting List?

I hope he doesn't, as Luschi confirmed his table on 19.04. (T#2009012799000014)

fluffy - is - at - the - waiting - list.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Gyroplast on 27.05.2009, 10:41:23
Sheesh, you're too fast, I can't even retroactively re-word my postings! :)
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: fluffy52 on 14.06.2009, 16:48:56
And I am a she and not a he  :D

Fluffy
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: fluffy52 on 16.06.2009, 20:15:50
Her table  :D

Im sorry, but when do you realise that you are still on the waiting List?

Luschi confirmed his table on 19.04. Obviously not everyone realizes that this confirmation is only valid for people who actually have a valid EF registration in the first place.

Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: gwyndolium on 17.06.2009, 10:52:57
Why not just turn the bodysuit inside out and dry it from the outside? I always hang it inside out when I'm done suiting!
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Suran on 17.06.2009, 11:48:44
Why not just turn the bodysuit inside out and dry it from the outside? I always hang it inside out when I'm done suiting!

Does not work well with paddings and sometimes the fur is completely soaked.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: gwyndolium on 17.06.2009, 14:20:51
Why not just turn the bodysuit inside out and dry it from the outside? I always hang it inside out when I'm done suiting!

Does not work well with paddings and sometimes the fur is completely soaked.

Paddings are a problem yes. Guess it doesn't work for everybody but it sure does just for me, and it's quite handy too!

And how the.. do you get your fur all soaked?
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Suran on 17.06.2009, 14:23:09
And how the.. do you get your fur all soaked?

That would be called dancing.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: gwyndolium on 17.06.2009, 14:29:27
And how the.. do you get your fur all soaked?

That would be called dancing.

It'll be my first EF this year so I still have to experience a dance in my suit ;)
Hell I'm lucky I don't sweat alot (or not lucky for that matter... as I hardly cool down)
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Suran on 17.06.2009, 15:22:04
It'll be my first EF this year so I still have to experience a dance in my suit ;)
Hell I'm lucky I don't sweat alot (or not lucky for that matter... as I hardly cool down)

Be prepared for
* high powered light (alien heat rays are for sissies)
* lots of people working out
* many hours of dancing to
* fast, modern music
* many fursuiters per fan in headless area and dance-floor
* crowded headless area
* hanging and drying your suit in your room (fan-noise and smells may offend others in your room)

There should be some smaller and 2 large dance-events.
One of them especially for fursuiters with
less fog and somewhat slower music. (I guess
BigBlueFox has announced it somewhere in this
forum.)

I myself am only on the floor for a short time
to have fun. I don't want to stress my new suit
or myself too much. Others who like dancing more
and don't leave the floor much until late in the morning.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: gwyndolium on 17.06.2009, 18:08:00
I don't think I can handle dancing for more than an hour or 2 in suit anyway because my disfunctional body that tells me I shouldn't sweat upon places like my head which means my fursuithead is completely dry after suiting but means I overheat very and really VERY fast. Double edged blade on that. So I'll see.

Dang still don't have a fan :P

EDIT : Another plus is that I hardly smell nor does my suit. But again, it's at the cost of only being able to suit short times per period.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Suran on 17.06.2009, 18:50:54
There is a hardware store about 20-30min by car.
They sell large fans. ;)
(Got mine there last year.)
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: gwyndolium on 17.06.2009, 18:54:55
There is a hardware store about 20-30min by car.
They sell large fans. ;)
(Got mine there last year.)

I'll see if I need one as my head doesn't for sure. Only my body needs to get some air but I can turn it inside out so it dries pretty quick when hanging on the closet. I'll find out with experience ^_^

First con, with suit, big surprise!
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Lokosicek on 01.07.2009, 02:51:31
I apologise if this question has been asked before, but will this year's headless lounge be in the same room as last year? Given the increasing number of fursuiters, that is. However, the room sufficed last year, and as I remember correctly, the lounge itself was overcrouded only on three occasions. The two dances and the fursuit parade.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: timduru on 02.07.2009, 20:05:23
If it's the same location, it might be a good idea for people to not leave their suits and boxes in the lounge when they are not active ;)
If fursuiters could be reasonable this year that would be good.

Having drying systems and hanger in the lounge might seems like a good idea, but it's not the case when there are not enough space and not enough fans.
It was a challenge to just be able to enter the lounge during peak times like dances last year, because of all the space eaten by the suits and gear left in the lounge by inactive suiters.
So this year with the increased number of suiters... yikes..

And when the lounge is full of old smelly and dried suit overnight,
it is not really nice when you are still active in fursuit and in need of a fan to find a full raw of hanged suits in front of fans and so on
or unable to use the head driers because there are constantly heads on them etc..
that is, heads from inactive suiters who went to bed and left their stuff in there, and that will simply stay there unatended...

So please try to be reasonable and get your suits / heads out of the drying systems as soon as they are dry !

Ideally it should be 2 separate rooms, one for drying/storage and one to use as the real fursuit lounge, that is when you are still in your fursuit and active.
Even with 2 rooms, if people leave their stuff in the storage room all the time, it'll be a problem,
but at least the real fursuit lounge could be used correctly ;)

On a side note, I think overall fursuiters leaving their stuff were very lucky,
because it already happened that there were stolen fursuit at other conventions.
Leaving your stuff unattended like that in the lounge which is on the ground floor with open windows/direct access, is just calling for trouble imho.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Lokosicek on 02.07.2009, 22:50:01
Tis true that the lounge was full of suit last year, but imagine what a bother it would be carrying your suits up to your room, and down to lounge, and up again, and down again, and up, down, up, down, etc. Sometimes is very usefull to be able to suit up very quickly, should there be opportunity to do fursuit fun of some kind.

As per leaving the heads on the dryers, you has teh truth. Most of them were left there unattended, even though they were already dry. As per thefts, yeah we were lucky...
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: timduru on 02.07.2009, 23:23:03
Tis true that the lounge was full of suit last year, but imagine what a bother it would be carrying your suits up to your room, and down to lounge, and up again, and down again, and up, down, up, down, etc.
Sometimes is very usefull to be able to suit up very quickly, should there be opportunity to do fursuit fun of some kind.

Well let's put it another way: imagine every fursuiter doing that.
I for example tend to bring 3 fursuits to EF.
What if, because I don't want to bother carrying my fursuit back to my room, I leave all my 3 suits in the lounge too?
I personally leave my suit to dry into my room, I don't leave them in the lounge,
but imagine if all 250+ suiters were leaving their suits in the lounge...


I would consider it kinda normal for fursuiters who are in the overflow hotel and don't have a friend's room in the main hotel to store their stuff, to have that kind of behaviour.

But come on, if you are in the main hotel, the EF hotel is not big, you can bring back your suit to your room
it's a matter of a few minutes !
You should not leave it in the lounge just because "you don't want to bother".
It's a lounge not a depot.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Mystifur on 02.07.2009, 23:24:21
Ok, time for some official information, i guess.

In accordance with with the rest of staff, I have relocated the fursuit lounge from the old room to the fitness area.
That is the area between the elevators and the Pool and Sauna.

Terms of use:  ;D

1) Accountability:
a) The fursuit area will NOT be staffed with security. Everyone using it, does so at their own risk. Nothing bad happened last year, but we are not responsible if your things disappear.

b) However fursuit support staff and security are always available for you if you have questons or problems. Staff has final say about what goes and what doesn't.

2) Use of dryers and blowers:
a) Please be reasonable with the use of our dryers and blowers. Once your suits and heads are dry, remove them from the racks to make room for others. Do not block a whole cool air blower by sticking your paws and shirt to it.

b) Fursuit Staff has the right to remove suits from the racks if they feel they are dry. That does NOT mean that we maintain a drying service. It means we are rude and may or may not take off your suit and place it somewhere else in the room without notice, so others can use the dryers as well. Especially if some suiter informs us that he would like to use the rack and can't find an empty spot, while there are dry suits on it.

3) Access:
a) The fursuit lounge area is exclusively for fursuiters, in or out of suit. Regular non-suiting attendees should respect this privacy rule.

b) The fursuit area is open to every active suiter all the time, and to their helpers for the time of helping your suiting buddy. That means it is ok for any suiter to stay in the lounge area, even if they are not suiting.
However, if you are currently not suiting, please be reasonable. Leave the refreshments and snacks for people currently suiting. Leave the room if it is overcrowded with suiters in costume.
 

4) Housekeeping
Fursuit support staff is not in any way rewarded for what they do. We do not have any paid cleaning service from the hotel either.
Please make everyones life easy: Throw your trash and leftovers in the bin. Tidy up if you spilled something. Don't leave your stuff laying in the walkways.

Further support:
We have more than twice the space we had last year. But we are on a very tight budget, even if we only rent new equipment instead of buying it. If you want to bring your own blower, water dispenser, head dryer or any other helpful equipment, we will definately appreciate that.  :)
If you find the water dispensers empty, feel free to refill them directly at the bar only 5 meters away.

And now: Enjoy the convention.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: timduru on 03.07.2009, 00:05:12
If you want to bring your own blower, water dispenser, head dryer or any other helpful equipment, we will definately appreciate that.  :)

It will depend on the space left in my car, but I'll try to bring 2 blowers for the fursuit lounge with me.
one is huge: 12000m3/h 260W
and the other one "smaller" but high velocity 9000m3/h 180W :)
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Barney on 03.07.2009, 01:40:12
It will depend on the space left in my car, but I'll try to bring 2 blowers for the fursuit lounge with me.
one is huge: 12000m3/h 260W
and the other one "smaller" but high velocity 9000m3/h 180W :)


Do you want to blow the suits out of the room with that? :o
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: timduru on 03.07.2009, 12:49:34
Do you want to blow the suits out of the room with that? :o

Well, as soon as you have a lot of padding in your fursuit you need high speed blowers.
Otherwise it doesn't cool you down at all, because the wind can't reach the inside :)

I don't know how they are called in english, but it's not really  "fans",
they are called "air movers" if I do a direct translation from french..
This is what you need to cool down in suit :)

*g*, actually, with a few of those we could make a wind tunnel  ;)
Put a few at the entrance, a few more at the opposite side at the exit, and you're done ;)
That would be nice, no need to find a blower to cool down, the entire room / tunnel would be windy ;P

Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Barney on 03.07.2009, 14:17:05
*g*, actually, with a few of those we could make a wind tunnel  ;)
Put a few at the entrance, a few more at the opposite side at the exit, and you're done ;)
That would be nice, no need to find a blower to cool down, the entire room / tunnel would be windy ;P


Yeah, and everyone with a slightly bad health would attract concrud at the same time. Hmmmm no I don't think that's a good idea really.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: timduru on 03.07.2009, 14:30:31
Yeah, and everyone with a slightly bad health would attract concrud at the same time. Hmmmm no I don't think that's a good idea really.
Well the wind tunnel would be made to ... cool down,
if you don't want to cool down you could stay in another part of the lounge...
Not different than not staying in front of a fan if you don't want to cool down,
it'd just be at a bigger scale ;)

But if people prefer me not to bring those blowers, no worry,
I won't bother trying to get them to fit in my car and carry them.
But EF is indeed asking for fans, and I do think that the majority of fursuiter will enjoy them ;)
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Suran on 03.07.2009, 14:40:35
Lets stay serious and constructive here.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: Mystifur on 10.08.2009, 15:34:45
Timduru, your blowers will be highly appreciated.  :)

So is any other wind machine contribution. The more, the better.
Title: Re: Drying and airing out Suits
Post by: leinir on 10.08.2009, 15:37:11
Last year my other half and i bought a huge floor fan for use at the rfo+spandexfurs room party, and though we never did end up using it, if we've got the space in the car, i'll bring it again this year and stick it in the fursuit lounge :)