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Title: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: DarkRacoon on 10.09.2006, 23:59:08
EF11 and 12 both had awesome themes, and with the number being 13 next year, I think a top notch theme would be a Casino! A Las Vagas type theme. With black cats and ladders and broken mirrors and everything accosiated with bad luck.

Eurofurence Unlucky 13

But the con would rock ^_^
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Aloïs on 11.09.2006, 00:30:11
I second the idea! Sounds neat.
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Jaryic on 11.09.2006, 00:38:14

EF 12,5 - We are not superstitious!

-Jaryic ;D
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: SlyCat on 11.09.2006, 00:51:41

EF 12,5 - We are not superstitious!

-Jaryic ;D
Eurofurence 2007 works too ;)
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Runo on 11.09.2006, 01:06:11
Eurofurence 2007 sounds like a boring taxes-computerprogram  ::) :P

Jojo
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Thygrrr on 11.09.2006, 09:36:12
I'd favor something with Pirates. And Ninjas.
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Cheetah on 11.09.2006, 11:47:46
I'd favor something with Pirates. And Ninjas.

And Chuck Norris! And Sharks with friggin' lasers on their forheads!
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Thygrrr on 11.09.2006, 13:08:18
Come to think of it, Chuck Norris is kind of furry, you know...  :D

Anyway, I think the "unlucky Casino" idea is fun, but I always associate the number "13" with Pirates. I guess that's what you get from reading too much "Jim Knopf und Lukas, der Lokomotivführer" as a kid.

Eurofurence 13 - Black Jack. 'n Hookers.
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Kamen on 11.09.2006, 15:10:02
yoho! pirates! the best idea for a 13!
and 2007 is the start of the last part of "pirates of the carribean"!!! that would be some fun for everyone!
and - as a great heather fan - there would be a chance for heather to introduce her new album, that will be out late september this year and will be full of shantys and other funny stuff about the sea and maybe pirates ;)
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: nifelan on 11.09.2006, 21:05:52
EF11 and 12 both had awesome themes, and with the number being 13 next year, I think a top notch theme would be a Casino! A Las Vagas type theme. With black cats and ladders and broken mirrors and everything accosiated with bad luck.

Eurofurence Unlucky 13

But the con would rock ^_^

Hehe, I had the same idea :)
Hey, its EF 13 - you have to do something with that number.
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Knightmare on 12.09.2006, 11:10:53
pirates would be cool, a furry version of paul burtchel, maybe a wrestling theme would work, introduce the furries as they do in WWE,

"WEIGHING IN AT 170 POUNDS, HAILING FROM SWINDON WILTSHIRE, HE IS THE 4FW HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION, THE DRACONIC WARRIOR KNIGHHHHHTMAAARRREE" LOL
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: DarkRacoon on 13.09.2006, 00:49:12
hehehe, Paul Burchil rocks! Although WWE are using him very little laely >:(

Guildford's own!

You from Swindon? Lucky you :P
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Shep on 13.09.2006, 11:52:14
Some sort of horror theme based around the number 13 would be pretty good, or a 1970s-themed type of thing :)
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: FWO heltash on 13.09.2006, 12:37:28
hey knightmare you *mumbles name* sorry about him, hes my twin bro you see and hes nuts about wrestling, as you can see in this vid (its me) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDi-95TtL0o.

getting back onto the subject,i love the idea of pirates, THE GOOD SHIP FURRY, pirate ships, swords, eye patches, MAKEING MY BROTHER WALK THE PLANK
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Fairlight on 13.09.2006, 16:02:17
Neat! ARRRR! Pirates!

I like the idea. ^.^

I was originally thinking more in the direction of Friday 13th with horror and such (plastic spiders EVERYWHERE, like one bad Halloween trip!), but Pirates are fun, too! ^.^
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Knightmare on 13.09.2006, 16:03:56
maybe a beach theme
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Schneelocke on 13.09.2006, 16:23:33
getting back onto the subject,i love the idea of pirates, THE GOOD SHIP FURRY, pirate ships, swords, eye patches, MAKEING MY BROTHER WALK THE PLANK

That be sounding good, matey! :)
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Shaevairc on 14.09.2006, 12:53:11
PRO Pirates!
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Kisu on 18.09.2006, 17:58:45
Yarrr, Pirate theme sounds great  ;D
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: FWO heltash on 19.09.2006, 13:42:19
how about COWBOYS AND INDIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! running around with arrows and gun
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Skunki on 19.09.2006, 18:51:35
Why don't name it "EF14: On Search For EF 13" ? :)

I recall a similar subject from Space Quest 10... or was it King's Quest 5 ?
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Fairlight on 19.09.2006, 19:06:04
Welcome to the 19th of September - Official Talk Like A Pirate Day! ARR, MATEY!
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Schneelocke on 19.09.2006, 20:02:37
Why don't name it "EF14: On Search For EF 13" ? :)

I recall a similar subject from Space Quest 10... or was it King's Quest 5 ?

Could've been Space Quest IV, which made references to Space Quest X and XII IIRC.
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: SouthPaw on 20.09.2006, 01:03:20
Why don't name it "EF14: On Search For EF 13" ? :)

I recall a similar subject from Space Quest 10... or was it King's Quest 5 ?
And there was also supposed to be a "Spaceballs 3 : The Search for Spaceballs 2" at some point.

Cheers,

Southie
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Thalian on 20.09.2006, 22:59:06
Neat! ARRRR! Pirates!
Hmmm...I like the idea!
I want to be a mean, bearded pirate! *HARRRR!*
*ggg*
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Cookie on 21.09.2006, 09:07:41
Yay! Pirates!

I could make a gorgeous pirate outfit for my rattie fursuit... That would be neat :)
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Suran on 22.09.2006, 22:52:35
The proper follow-up on the crime-scene would of cause be "EF 13 - A Ghost Story" ;)
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: leinir on 22.09.2006, 22:58:52
Hmm... That is no bad idea at all :) *giggles* i, for one, like it ;)
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Schneelocke on 22.09.2006, 23:04:20
The proper follow-up on the crime-scene would of cause be "EF 13 - A Ghost Story" ;)

Or a follow-up to EF9: after "cunning little vixens", we could have "tied-up little wolves" (or foxes, if you prefer). ^.^
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Suran on 22.09.2006, 23:06:22

Or a follow-up to EF9: after "cunning little vixens", we could have "tied-up little wolves" (or foxes, if you prefer). ^.^

Is that personal interest speaking? ;)
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Schneelocke on 22.09.2006, 23:28:23
Is that personal interest speaking? ;)

*tries to look innocent* Personal interest? Oh, no. Not at all. Whatever made you think it was? ^_~
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Fjordwolf on 24.09.2006, 23:18:21
13 sounds like a horror theme.
Or anything religious. superstinious.
That would be a different to the last EFs.
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Schneelocke on 25.09.2006, 00:07:51
13 sounds like a horror theme.
Or anything religious. superstinious.
That would be a different to the last EFs.

Hmm... the Furry Inquisition? :)
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: SouthPaw on 25.09.2006, 12:07:41
Hmm... the Furry Inquisition? :)

I didn't expect the Furry Inquisition!
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Schneelocke on 25.09.2006, 12:28:33
I didn't expect the Furry Inquisition!

Nobody expects the Furry Inquisition! ^^
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Zefiro on 26.09.2006, 10:55:20
[/size][/size]Nobody expects the Furry Inquisition! ^^
Furry Inquisition Agency? *scnr*

*purrrrr*
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Schneelocke on 26.09.2006, 11:53:56
Furry Inquisition Agency? *scnr*

*purrrrr*

Owwww... good one. ^.^
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Kiguren on 27.09.2006, 19:37:18
A horror theme or Furry Inquisition theme sounds great.
There needs to be a Guillotine : D
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Schneelocke on 27.09.2006, 21:17:32
A horror theme or Furry Inquisition theme sounds great.
There needs to be a Guillotine : D

Absolutely. ^.^
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Sirana J. Helena on 02.10.2006, 13:14:22
Hm, let's see, we have this number 13. People call it a horror number, for some it's a lucky thing, for other people it is kind of "mysterious", maybe religious. And we have suggestions like "pirates" and "casino".
Themes which have to much "real crime" in it, aren't the best ideas, in my opinion, because we had this last EF.
So I guess I vote for "pirates" and "mysterious stories", if you want so. But it have to be something with this number, 13.
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Cheetah on 02.10.2006, 13:40:44
Hm, let's see, we have this number 13. People call it a horror number, for some it's a lucky thing, for other people it is kind of "mysterious", maybe religious. And we have suggestions like "pirates" and "casino".
Themes which have to much "real crime" in it, aren't the best ideas, in my opinion, because we had this last EF.
So I guess I vote for "pirates" and "mysterious stories", if you want so. But it have to be something with this number, 13.

Oh, I thought I might chime in here .. :)

The theme for EF13 is far from decided yet, we'll also make it a little bit dependent on which kind of location we will get .. which is also undecided yet.

However, we've of course also had our discussions among the staff, and so far "Pirates" is the suggestion we like the least ... because it's such a fad right now. If it weren't for Johnny Depp's sexy ass, nobody would be interested in Pirates :)

And there are so many themes that have a much closer connection to the number "13", and that haven't been done to death ...

My personal favourite is actually the Casino theme :) That's also a theme that can be done with not too much effort. We're going to be just a tad tight on money next year ...
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Runo on 03.10.2006, 04:32:04
If it weren't for Johnny Depp's sexy ass, nobody would be interested in Pirates :)

My personal favourite is actually the Casino theme :) That's also a theme that can be done with not too much effort. We're going to be just a tad tight on money next year ...

Johnny Depp has a sexy donkey :o  ;D ;) Cool! I LIKE donkeys  :D

But seriously - I like the Inquisition theme a lot more than the casino one, though it's certainly more effort to make that up good. Casino will be much easier to handle though, especially when the next ef won't be in a castle anymore, but in a conference center, etc. There, 'Inquisition' just wouldn't fit.

But after a little bit of browsing, still I have no additional ideas, I'm afraid. :-[ - But I'm sure you'll again come up with sth nice  :)

Jojo
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Cougar on 04.10.2006, 08:46:55
i hate the inquisition theme. it to religious and its as evil as nazis, maybe even more evil.

we should avoid glorifying the darkes moments in human history.

there is nothing funny about religious slaughter or nazi terror.
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Schneelocke on 04.10.2006, 10:39:26
there is nothing funny about religious slaughter or nazi terror.

There's nothing funny about murder, either, yet we did have a murder mystery theme this year. :) Come on, lighten up a bit. (And it's not like anyone actually suggested a nazi theme, anyway, so... remember Godwin. ;) )
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Grace Kitten on 10.10.2006, 11:03:01
One thing... You are all trying to play up the fact its the 13th EF. Why not play it down. Though I cannot give an idea at the moment.
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Tungro on 15.10.2006, 17:20:11
I do like the idea of a casino theme. It's one that should be quite easily do-able, and also kind of fitting with the number 13. However, what about keeping this theme until (yes I know it's far away but) EF21?
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Hawthorn on 16.10.2006, 00:32:42

However, we've of course also had our discussions among the staff, and so far "Pirates" is the suggestion we like the least ... because it's such a fad right now. If it weren't for Johnny Depp's sexy ass, nobody would be interested in Pirates :)

Oh yes, please... ANYTHING but Pirates. Its already sooo tiredly overdone. And please, no ninjas either.
Those 2 fads need to be put to rest :/

I have no sugestions myself, but I agree that the Casino might be a good idea. :3
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Schneelocke on 16.10.2006, 00:42:27
Oh yes, please... ANYTHING but Pirates. Its already sooo tiredly overdone. And please, no ninjas either.
Those 2 fads need to be put to rest :/

How about a Weebl & Bob theme? Then we could have NINJA PIRATES! And donkeys, too, so there'd even be a furry connection. :)
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: BHO on 25.10.2006, 23:30:45
I'd go for the unlucky 13, even though I confess that the pirates are a tempting topic, expecially with the next Pirates of the Carribbean waiting for us by that time.

But nevertheless, Pirates is a topic, that can be picked any time and it's not bound to a con number. But we will only have EF 13 _once_ and never more and that's why I'd suggest something that either plays with the idea of an unlucky number or something horror like.
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Shadow-Woofie on 25.10.2006, 23:59:43
I'd like to see a Horror theme, Spoooky nr 13! Hehe, That be great ;P My first con and i'll prolly get Scared Shitless! (A Mixture of Nervousness and Fear)
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Keenora on 26.10.2006, 09:13:34
Yeah, a Horror Theme would be cool :D
..oO( some spooky effects in the pawpetshow? ^^ )
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Schneelocke on 26.10.2006, 11:11:02
If we're getting back to horror, I'd like to suggest the "furry inquisition" theme again. ^^
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: MarityS on 27.10.2006, 14:33:48
It's mine frist EF too... Horror just fine...

However.... my character is sweet and innocent... doesn't fit with horror...lol
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Cougar on 01.11.2006, 21:47:38
horror, violence and such suck.

13 is not even an unlucky number in most cultures of europe.

and most disadvantage in the theme horror is: horror has no style. i associate with horror cheap, ugly and boring movies or even worse - war, pain, torture and deah.

where is the fun in that?
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: ANTIcarrot on 06.11.2006, 02:32:12
and most disadvantage in the theme horror is: horror has no style. i associate with horror cheap, ugly and boring movies

There's a difference between the mass-production gore-feist that Hollywood tends to do - and a good monster romp. A good monster romp can be very furry, and lots of fun.
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Kiguren on 08.11.2006, 13:59:10
I'm no fan of splatter films either. But there are lots of good, intelligent horror movies out there. I also think that "horror" can be really stylish. Just think of "Bram Stokers' Dracula", "Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas" and maybe "The Shining"? Those are just some more known examples. "The Nightmare Before Christmas" isn't a horror movie but it still fits the theme very well. : )
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Cheetah on 09.11.2006, 09:30:01
Okay ... a final decision about the EF13 theme has has been made :) I won't disclose it just yet ... stay tuned, the website is going to go live in a few days :)
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: BHO on 12.11.2006, 13:02:29
Mope. :/ Ok, I might have not been able to count all suggestions and I surely don't know which suggestions where made behind the scenes but...

Here I count
11 votes for pirates
9 votes Horror/ the unlucky 13
5 votes for the casino and
13 votes for something completely different.

The Casino was chosen. It's not a bad topic at all, but eh... it makes me wonder. -_-'



Edit: I am aware of the fact, that this was only a suggestion and not a voting poll, but some of the "contra" arguments seemed very... weak to me. :/
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Cheetah on 12.11.2006, 14:27:20
Edit: I am aware of the fact, that this was only a suggestion and not a voting poll, but some of the "contra" arguments seemed very... weak to me. :/

Doability also plays a role. "Pirates" and "Horror" may sound like fun ... but there's not much you can do in a hotel to actually make the theme recognizable, and there's not much budget for decorations. So the casino theme is a good choice from an organisational standpoint ... since casinos are often also hotels, it nicely reflects the change we're making from this year's location. And we can achieve a certain recognizability even with little effort, because a hotel already is a fitting background for a casino theme.

Maybe another theme would have been more popular, but then, what would it be worth if the con book cover would be the only thing you could recognize it from? So we're playing it safe.

And of course I can't decide a motto that most of the staff hate. No matter how popular a theme would have been in a poll, if it's totally uninspiring (or even annoying) to the more important creative heads among the staff, it'll create frustration, which will end in a bad execution of things, or even general demotivation. And believe me, keeping the staff motivated is harder than you think, and dependant on stuff you wouldn't expect. People take this very personally, it's not just a job :)

So ... I'm not meaning to argue. But this is the honest explanation, why we didn't decide on a Pirate-Furence or a Horror-Furence. These themes just didn't inspire anyone, they felt old and overdone, and trying to do them anyway would probably have ended in a failure because of that.
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Runo on 12.11.2006, 15:50:21
Well, thinking about Oceans eleven and so on I'm sure there are a lot of nice things one can do with a casino-theme. Though in germany, real gambling wouldn't be allowed, right? Or would it, with only small bets? Or perhaps it could be done with just plastic chips without value, but whoever wins the most gets a special prize in the end, sth like that... ;D

*really exited* being one of the organization members must be a whole lot of fun, working out all these surprizes (though - a lot of work too, certainly... ::))

Jojo
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Schneelocke on 12.11.2006, 15:53:54
Wikipedia:

"Das Veranstalten von Glücksspiel bedarf gegenwärtig entsprechend § 284 StGB einer behördlichen Erlaubnis, wenn es sich um ein öffentliches Spiel handelt. Dies ist dann der Fall, wenn das Spiel einem sich verändernden Personenkreis angeboten wird. Bereits die Beteiligung als Spieler ist strafbar, § 285 StGB. In einem geschlossenen Personenkreis, etwa einer privaten Pokerrunde, darf jedoch durchaus um Geld gespielt werden."
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Cheetah on 12.11.2006, 18:45:27
Wikipedia:

"Das Veranstalten von Glücksspiel bedarf gegenwärtig entsprechend § 284 StGB einer behördlichen Erlaubnis, wenn es sich um ein öffentliches Spiel handelt. Dies ist dann der Fall, wenn das Spiel einem sich verändernden Personenkreis angeboten wird. Bereits die Beteiligung als Spieler ist strafbar, § 285 StGB. In einem geschlossenen Personenkreis, etwa einer privaten Pokerrunde, darf jedoch durchaus um Geld gespielt werden."

I'd say that's common knowledge, especially after the recent events around that east german lotto company.
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Runo on 12.11.2006, 18:56:39
So it dosn't depent on the amount of money, hm... well, and I guess the eurofurence doesn't count as a private, closed round anymore, hm? Or does it?  ;D

But - if we only play for valueless chips, it should't be a matter, right? If no *real* money is involved...

Jojo
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Cheetah on 12.11.2006, 19:15:40
Well, to end this part of the discussion: No, gambiling with real money is not our style. If there will be any kind of actual casino games (planning hasn't gone to this level of details yet), then there will not be any real money involved.
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: Schneelocke on 12.11.2006, 19:57:26
I'd say that's common knowledge, especially after the recent events around that east german lotto company.

It wasn't for me, and I suppose it might not be for folks who're not from Germany, either.

Also, which lotto company?
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: DarkRacoon on 12.11.2006, 22:01:08
Wooo! You went with my casino idea! Thank you! ^^
Title: Re: EF13 Theme Suggestions
Post by: BHO on 13.11.2006, 12:20:34
@ Cheetah:

Thank you very much for the calm and well thought-through answer. I do mean this. :>

I am taking the chance this board offers - to speal my mind - very serious and when people can explain to with convincing arguments, why a certain topic should not be possible, than that's fine. Although I think, due to Halloween having been past recently, once could have managed something. Many people do hoard all their Halloween deco and if you pick out all the pumpkins, you might as well creatre a nice deco for a horror themed con. But eh... ^^

Casino... that reminds me heavily of Casino Royale and CSI Las Vegas. *snickers* Paff Con, go! XD