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Title: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: TaniDaReal on 09.08.2009, 14:21:04
You don't want to miss out the Pawpet Show on Saturday, 29th August, do you? ;)

Here's the finished poster for the Show this year - "Operation Desert Snow".
Sorry, I may not tell you more info - if you want to find out, go and watch the show!
We are looking forward to see you there! :D

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This year the poster (DIN A1 sized) will be available for only 15 EUR
(including poster tube!) in the Dealer's Den! So don't miss it!
:)


(http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs46/f/2009/221/e/f/Operation_Desert_Snow_by_TaniDaReal.jpg)

Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Skie on 09.08.2009, 20:49:21
Me wants! Me wants!
Save me a copy!
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Shiro on 09.08.2009, 21:50:03
looks really interesting
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: PlushFox on 09.08.2009, 23:24:47
· are there really Fennec-pawpets in the show? CYOOOTE!!! Never seen such pawpets before. If so: I must have one! I even will pay for it ;D
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: draconigen on 09.08.2009, 23:37:59
Actually, we've got 911 attendees. Are you sure to bring enough posters? :P
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Mystifur on 10.08.2009, 21:26:54
Opera Lion ?  ;D

*runs away* Stop beating me ! Ouch ! Ouch ! Ouch ! Caution.. wet floor.
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: kyyanno on 10.08.2009, 22:20:53
Mika with a frying pan was worrying enough......but a gun?!?!


Now no-one messes with Mika.......and lives :P

(soooo looking forwards to this years show! )
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Zefiro on 10.08.2009, 22:44:59
Now no-one messes with Mika.......and lives :P
So Lionel has nothing to worry about, has he? ;)

*purrrr*
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: drayygon on 10.08.2009, 22:51:11
More art for the art wall!
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Fairlight on 11.08.2009, 13:25:28
DISCLAIMER: The show might or might not contain Fennec(s). In case of Fennec involvement, note that there is a 100% chance of said Fennec(s) beeing custom built. But, of cause, that's all highly hypothetical, really.
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Zefiro on 11.08.2009, 13:28:49
Warning: if custom build Fennecs are involved, do not go near Fennecs. They may be aggressive. Eurofurence e.V. holds no liability for Fennec-related injuries when Fennecs have been provoced.
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Fairlight on 11.08.2009, 14:41:37
Also, please note that Fennecs are not to be confused with Fan-Ex(tm). The former is a desert fox, the later a fanboy repellant. Thank you for your attention.
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Recherei on 11.08.2009, 15:03:22
Also, please note that Fennecs are not to be confused with Fan-Ex(tm)**. The former is a desert fox, the later a fanboy repellant. Thank you for your attention.

Is this foreshadowing?


**also not to be confused with Feddex
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: RealZero on 11.08.2009, 15:10:06
One thing I asked on FA already, is it somehow possible to get a poster of last year's show, as well? Or to buy/get a high resolution image to print it on my own, or anything like that?
I'd love to have those wonderful bats on my wall.^^

Greetings,
RealZero
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: PlushFox on 11.08.2009, 23:34:56
Warning: ... do not go near Fennecs. They may be aggressive.


No! Fennecs are all cute and cuddly. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv3J6dhJEnc) ;D
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: TaniDaReal on 11.08.2009, 23:42:19
Actually, we've got 911 attendees. Are you sure to bring enough posters? :P

I will have 100 posters with me (20 of them reserved for the Pawpet Show team). In case - which I don't really believe - they should sell out quickly, I will take pre-orders and re-print them after EF. :)

@ RealZero:
The "problem" is that I sold a limited poster print (signed by everybody of the team) in the Art Show last year, #1/1. It would not be fair to now just sell them regularly. If I find out who bought the poster last year, and if that person is OK with me selling more regular prints of it, it would be fine with me. I will see what I can do.
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Skie on 12.08.2009, 13:19:00
I will have 100 posters with me (20 of them reserved for the Pawpet Show team). In case - which I don't really believe - they should sell out quickly, I will take pre-orders and re-print them after EF. :)

Oh so now it's a run for both the poster and the book with the other poster o.o
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Jumpy on 12.08.2009, 21:09:30
Actually, we've got 911 attendees. Are you sure to bring enough posters? :P

I will have 100 posters with me (20 of them reserved for the Pawpet Show team). In case - which I don't really believe - they should sell out quickly, I will take pre-orders and re-print them after EF. :)

You should be prepared, with the two leopards in the background. Or make those into a separate piece, they're awesome!
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Barney on 12.08.2009, 21:18:33
Do we have to send you a PM to order in advance, Tani?
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Kisu on 13.08.2009, 12:45:24
Hehe, come with Mika if you want to live  ;D
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Karasaph on 19.08.2009, 01:59:52
I so want one.

I really love the pawpet show and so it is appropriate to have one of those prints. 15 Euro's is quite something but it's worth it. It's an awesome design. It reminds a lot about the one from last year and I think that's really great.
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: TaniDaReal on 21.08.2009, 10:23:30
Do we have to send you a PM to order in advance, Tani?

Either PM or email. In case I don't hear back from you in time (sorry for my late reply), I will reserve you one for sure. ^^

@ Karasaph: I think 15 EUR for a DIN A1 sized poster incl. poster tube is a pretty cheap price compared to what people spend on regular prints or in the Art Show. ;P
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Onkel Kage on 21.08.2009, 14:28:06
Warning: Pregnant women, the elderly, and children under 10 should avoid prolonged exposure to Happy Fun Fennec.
Caution: Happy Fun Fennec may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds.
Happy Fun Fennec contains a liquid core, which, if exposed due to rupture, should not be touched, inhaled, or looked at.
Do not use Happy Fun Fennec on concrete.
Discontinue use of Happy Fun Fennec if any of the following occurs:
-itching
-vertigo
-dizziness
-tingling in extremities
-loss of balance or coordination
-slurred speech
-temporary blindness
-profuse sweating
-heart palpitations
If Happy Fun Fennec begins to smoke, get away immediately. Seek shelter and cover head.
Happy Fun Fennec may stick to certain types of skin.
When not in use, Happy Fun Fennec should be returned to its special container and kept under refrigeration. Failure to do so relieves the makers of Happy Fun Fennec, Wacky Products Incorporated, and its parent company, Global Chemical Unlimited, of any and all liability.
Ingredients of Happy Fun Fennec include an unknown glowing green substance which fell to Earth, presumably from outer space.
Happy Fun Fennec has been shipped to our troops in Saudi Arabia and is being dropped by our warplanes on Iraq.
Do not taunt Happy Fun Fennec.
Happy Fun Fennec comes with a lifetime warranty.
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: PlushFox on 21.08.2009, 14:34:26
...and will be sold on ebay after Eurofurence 15 for only $911 :D
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Fairlight on 21.08.2009, 15:06:06
Happy Fun Fennec after unpacking:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_M0cuxJsSjdU/SKn9Tk3vHjI/AAAAAAAAEjg/UAUshU9kLtA/s400/1813051167_f6a4652b3f.jpg)

(http://islandfox.org/uploaded_images/foxessignSNweb-777226.jpg)
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Theo on 21.08.2009, 15:08:13
You got yourself a white one there, did it come with a selection of sand-coloured paint?
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Fawks Beaumont on 21.08.2009, 15:09:31
Discontinue use of Happy Fun Fennec if any of the following occurs:
-vertigo
-dizziness
-loss of balance or coordination
-slurred speech
-profuse sweating


Somehow, I foresee these being a problem with an unrelated cause.
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Gyroplast on 21.08.2009, 15:10:26
*looks at the fennec picture in disbelief*

Hell, do those ears have to be pumped up first like the wings of a dragonfly?  And dry in the sun before it can take off?

BTW, before anybody jumps at wrong conclusions because of my avatar: I am not, by any means, Happy Fun Fennec, nor related in any way. Also, I'm not filled with green goo. Usually.
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Fairlight on 21.08.2009, 15:19:09
Theo: Yes, it comes with furpaint (tm). Please read the instructions.

Gyro: About the ears: Yes, the can be inflated.

Here's Stage 2:

(http://cute-n-tiny.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fennec2.jpg)

And Stage 3:

(http://cute-n-tiny.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/untitled-2.jpg)
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Gyroplast on 21.08.2009, 15:26:41
Put it away! The Cute... it burrrrns!
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Schakaline on 21.08.2009, 15:29:57
Do not taunt Happy Fun Fennec.


Ssh! You're supposed to be drunk on EF, not one week before the con!

Also, the wine is much better here.
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Jaryic on 21.08.2009, 15:30:43
No 2 has something of yoda, doesn't he

Put it away! The Cute... it burrrrns!

Wait until they start shredding your furniture  ;D

-jar
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Barney on 22.08.2009, 22:05:33
*looks at the fennec picture in disbelief*

Hell, do those ears have to be pumped up first like the wings of a dragonfly?  And dry in the sun before it can take off?

BTW, before anybody jumps at wrong conclusions because of my avatar: I am not, by any means, Happy Fun Fennec, nor related in any way. Also, I'm not filled with green goo. Usually.

I think we should all pet you at EF, Gyroplast *grins*
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Sniff on 29.08.2009, 21:33:15
It`s going on right now, don`t miss it. Greetings from the lobby!!!
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Keidran on 31.08.2009, 22:38:17
there is only one thing I can say!
HolyShitWTFBBQZomfgOlololAtomicrofl

well that's my impression when I saw the awesome show.
it was my first and God I sooo wanna take part in that xD
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Fairlight on 31.08.2009, 22:57:22
Glad you liked the show! ^.^

So.. think we had enough Fennecs? ^.^
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: nifelan on 31.08.2009, 23:18:27
The show felt quite different than earlier shows but it was an entertaining experience none the less.
I kinda missed the good old running gags but they might just not have been that fitting if they were done the same way they were usually done.

I also had the impression that the show itself was shorter than usual, which is possibly because of less action going on than I previous shows.
Still, I enjoyed it and I really hope that there will be a DVD sooner than later :)
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: gwyndolium on 31.08.2009, 23:40:14
The message was awesome! Keep it up no matter what others might say!
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Fairlight on 31.08.2009, 23:46:36
It depends what show you compare it to. A few years ago we ended up with shows that ran for the best part of 2.5 hours. Over the last few years Cheetah and Eisfuchs cut that down to a more manageable 1.5 hours, simply because 2.5 hours is a long time to sit on your tush in a boiling hot room, and it's also a long time to run back and forth behind the stage.

We also intentionally did break with some of the running gags and famous quotes. Over the last few years, we focussed on all our main puppets, one at a time. This year it was Mika's turn, to show that the tough girl noone messes with and who does everything herself and who has the black belt in catfighting... also has issues of her own.

Personally... I am SO looking forward to finding out what we will come up with for next year's show. Africa/Serengeti should make a really good setting!

Meow!
 Fairlight!
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: nifelan on 01.09.2009, 00:27:08
P.S.: I found all those names rather confusing and it took me quite a while to figure out at least some of the characters names.
Generally I have a problem with remembering names, especially such uncommon ones :(

Perhaps this could help you to improve the show in some way, that its less confusing for those people that have problem with remembering names :)
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Fairlight on 01.09.2009, 00:37:25
You mean, like "Poke"? ^.^

Nah.. I agree this year's names were quite tricky. Took us pawpeteers quite a while to be able to pronounce them without too much difficulty.

The short names, I think, were okay. Malika, Adham, Rashid, etc.

But it was an arabic-themed convention, and so we had to follow arabic naming conventions (the whole ibn and ben stuff. Arabic names tend to include their origins and lineage to some degree, and so can get quite long).

By the way... all the arabic names used in the show have actual meanings. That includes the characters, the name of the oasis and the name of the land. Cheetah and Eisfuchs must have spent quite a while researching arabic names, there ^.^ (One example: Al Waha Ta'lab means the Oasis of the Foxes. We hope ^.^ You'll have to try and figure out the other meanings yourself, tho ^.^)

Seeya,
 Fairlight!
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: nifelan on 01.09.2009, 00:40:08
Nice attention to detail there, just goes to show how much planning is actually involved in the show :)
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: gwyndolium on 01.09.2009, 00:49:42
It depends what show you compare it to. A few years ago we ended up with shows that ran for the best part of 2.5 hours. Over the last few years Cheetah and Eisfuchs cut that down to a more manageable 1.5 hours, simply because 2.5 hours is a long time to sit on your tush in a boiling hot room, and it's also a long time to run back and forth behind the stage.

We also intentionally did break with some of the running gags and famous quotes. Over the last few years, we focussed on all our main puppets, one at a time. This year it was Mika's turn, to show that the tough girl noone messes with and who does everything herself and who has the black belt in catfighting... also has issues of her own.

Personally... I am SO looking forward to finding out what we will come up with for next year's show. Africa/Serengeti should make a really good setting!

Meow!
 Fairlight!


I can't compare it to anything but I really liked the whole female sketch, especially in a setting and a fandom with so many guys in it. The end really made me wink away a tear and that's just awesome!
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Fairlight on 01.09.2009, 01:09:04
*grins* We'll add that to our resumes. "Makes grown men cry" ^.^

It is amazing, year after year, to see the reaction of the audience.

Quote from: Lori
From source to sea,
all mighty rivers flow,
but where they’ll take you on their way,
you’ll never know,
until you’re there!

Please don’t cry,
it’s just a short goodbye,
we’ll meet again down by the sea,
Just wait for me,
I’ll see you there!

Strangers from far away,
turned to friends in a day.
Sorrow is the price of victory,
but with a friend,
sorrow shared, is sorrow halfed!

Friendship crossed the divide!
Now we walk side by side!
Why pretend we live in different worlds?
Let’s join our hands
take the chance, and build a world of ... Friends!
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Keidran on 01.09.2009, 08:50:21
I especially loved the crazy Fennec. She was so funny and cute xD

I guess next one can be around Lionel. would be fitting.
mew. does a DVD come out? because I only got 3/4 of the show on my cam (curse you my accu) and without the Pictureless parts p.p (not to mention the bad quality because my arm fell off and it isn't made for dark recording p.p)

ah and I really really loved the song at the end. Hell she should have a singing careere.
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: RealZero on 01.09.2009, 09:04:42
The show was just lovely, I preferred the topic of last year, but it was still great. I so love Poke's humor, the same like mine. *chuckles*
Well, a longer "rating" of the show in my full review of the con later the day (?).
Mhh, so, any chance to get the ending song by Lori as a sound file? Or in general songs from the Pawpet show's? Would love to hear those again in quality better than "cell-phone-you-tube-quality".^^

Greetings,
RealZero
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: gwyndolium on 01.09.2009, 09:24:52
*grins* We'll add that to our resumes. "Makes grown men cry" ^.^

It is amazing, year after year, to see the reaction of the audience.


Good thing I'm only 19 ;)
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Pyridene on 01.09.2009, 10:18:36
The show was just lovely, I preferred the topic of last year, but it was still great. I so love Poke's humor, the same like mine. *chuckles*
Well, a longer "rating" of the show in my full review of the con later the day (?).
Mhh, so, any chance to get the ending song by Lori as a sound file? Or in general songs from the Pawpet show's? Would love to hear those again in quality better than "cell-phone-you-tube-quality".^^

Greetings,
RealZero

The ending song for "DreamCatchers" was released on one of BBF's videos.  I believe it was the EF pre-registration Video part 2. But since EF15's Pawpet show just happened it will probably be awhile before anything is released in high quality.
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Fairlight on 01.09.2009, 13:18:17
Hmm.. I think we'll have to wait for Cheetah to be out of OMG-Mode before we can find out if he plans to release the sound file.

As far as DVD's go: It's planned. The problem is that the production of the DVD takes a lot of time, what with it all needing video cutting and audio remastering (not easy, given we have a 5.1 soundtrack). Cheetah, BBF and Jaryic are usually so snowed under in other projects that there is a huge back log of shows awaiting beeing remastered.

According ot Cheetah, there's a chance we might see the release of one of the older shows on DVD later this year, but that's all down to how much time the team can spend to produce it. EF is a really big con, and most of the 365 days a year has is spent on planning for it.. ^.^ I think some day we'll need to find a seperate "post production" crew ^.^
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Barney on 01.09.2009, 14:01:51
I have to say, when I saw Mika being gunned down I was like "WTF" and had troubles keeping my eyes dry. I'm glad she got back in the end. It was nice to see what was written on the wheel of the chair as well "Nobody messes with Mika". Just... just don't let any of the puppets "die" okay? It makes me sad...
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Suran on 01.09.2009, 14:10:37
I think the situation between mika being shot and her reapearance was just surreal
A main character is dead and everyone is happy and celebrating as if nothing happened.
There really SHOULD have been a sign that she is just heavily wounded.
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: SouthPaw on 01.09.2009, 14:57:24
My personal opinion of Mika being shot was that it didn't seem to have the same emotional impact on the audience as, say, Monty's death in the EF13 show because I don't think anyone could believe that a main cast member would be killed off without it ending the run as well.

YMMV, of course...

Cheers,

Southie
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: o'wolf on 01.09.2009, 14:57:54
A main character is dead and everyone is happy and celebrating as if nothing happened.

We never said she was dead, did we? Adham is an asshole, but a lousy shooter who only by luck managed to kill his brother during the brawl. He would just have left Mika lying there dying if the Fennecs had not interfered.
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Suran on 01.09.2009, 15:01:12
owolf: Valid point.
For someone to be shot and then not move anymore it was just an easily made assumption. In this case a wrong one.
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Zefiro on 01.09.2009, 16:17:44
I especially loved the crazy Fennec. She was so funny and cute xD
That would be Nashida. (custom fennec pawpet build by Xan and played by me)

Yes, the killing of characters was quite nonclimatic this time, especially compared to the first times we did it (Monty and Finlay). It's part of the genre, I think. I'm not part of the storywriting, but I personally also prefer the slapstick to the deep story, especially if it involves having to kill someone.

The writing on the wheelchair had been added shortly before the show as a tribute to Tani, who, well... rehearsed her role a little bit too thoroughly.

*purrrr*
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Keidran on 01.09.2009, 16:19:36
I hope it's okay if I upload around 3/4 of the show in "my-arm-fell-of-so-don't-blame-me" quality. my cam died before the showdown on the dam. if not please tell me.

@Zefiro:
thanks for that awesome acting!

by the way. why was tani in hospital??
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Fairlight on 01.09.2009, 17:38:03
There were some issues with a rather upset stomach.

Trust me, those were tough hours when we learned that Tani was taken into hospital... and we were not sure how serious it'd be.

I'm just glad she was fine, in the end. Not just for the show's sake, but first and foremost for Tani's sake. *hugs a Schnolf*

Otherwise, this would have required the biggest "Plan B", ever! ^.^
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Whitepaw on 02.09.2009, 18:42:34
Great performance! I was wondering though, I have a recording of it, and would like to share it on the internet; am I allowed to? And can anyone recommend a way of getting the .wmv files I have from the camera into iMovie so I can add captions for the audio-only segments?

I'd happily pay €15-€20 for a high quality version of this, and the same again for the previous ones, though I'd not be able to afford all of them... at least, not all at once.
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Drift on 02.09.2009, 19:58:14
Great great show! It was my first one. I heard only good storries about the pawpet show in the past, but it was even better than I imagined, in a professional way! Keep up the good work, and let us know if and when and where it can be bought on DVD  :D
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Fairlight on 02.09.2009, 20:10:42
Whitepaw: There already are some of the Acts on YouTube.

Feel free to share your recordings as you like. Just let us know where they are, then. I'd love to see the show, myself, from the audience's perspective!
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Barney on 03.09.2009, 00:48:31
Talking about buying stuff: who wants to sell a fennec puppet and how much is it? Or where can I find a pattern for it to make it myself?
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Keidran on 03.09.2009, 09:40:06
Gnah I forgot to upload part 10 xD okay wil be done today.
You can find part 1-12 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upuvNtS7LJQ&feature=PlayList&p=69C1B2F7FDE27657&index=0&playnext=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upuvNtS7LJQ&feature=PlayList&p=69C1B2F7FDE27657&index=0&playnext=1)
(when I uploaded part 10 xD first I have to split it into 2 because of 12 minutes :<)
Uhhhm well and the rest is written in the video description.
Next year I have legs for my cam and an extra battery
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Drift on 03.09.2009, 10:00:13
@ Keidran: yeay, thanks for uploading it!
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: lynard on 07.09.2009, 11:07:38
Talking about buying stuff: who wants to sell a fennec puppet and how much is it? Or where can I find a pattern for it to make it myself?

The Fennec's are custom made and based on a disassembled Folkmanis Fox with some larger ears. You can ask Kyron if he would like to make you one (for money of course), but i think that will cost some money. The Fennecs are hand made and mostly we didn't use a sewing machine (used mine only for the ears, but then decided to go by hand for the rest).

best regards
Lynard
Title: Re: EF15 - The Pawpet Show!
Post by: Keidran on 07.09.2009, 11:48:39
Oh may Gawd it's Lionel peeking into the cam xD
god how cute xD

and thanks lynard for the info x3
maybe after I finished my fursuit I'll talk to him