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Eurofurence Information => Programming => Topic started by: SenGrisane on 24.08.2011, 21:00:52
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The panel has now been approved of. If everything goes as planned, it will be an open event so everyone can come.
What we now need is more samples from over the world to increase diversity. If you can afford it, please bring a bottle and come to the event. Any type of wine is welcome :3
Either I am too late or very early :P
Nevertheless during the convention while chatting with friends I got the idea to make a wine tasting panel. If the rumours of next years theme are true, then it might even be fitting.
I live(d) in a wine area and know a winemaker. I could much likely organize an assortment of wine from him for a reasonable price (which would only be a problem for me anyway ^^)
Then people could have a taste through different kinds of types of wine.
But there are some issues with this of course:
1) I don't drink alcohol. I can't judge the quality and details of any alcoholoc beverage. - I asked Uncle Kage if he might be willing to be there and be entertaining as always and he said yes, but he only knows white wine. So there would be still someone needed that knows stuff about red wine.
2) The hotel might have a problem with large quantities of wine being drunken that are not from them (we could put some from the hotel Maritim there as well).
3) Transportation - I usually come via train from Austria. So carrying 30-40 kg of wine would be pretty much impossible for me.
4) Kage also mentioned this might have to be a Super Sponsor Event to limit the amount of people that visit.
Feedback and ideas on this would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Edit: Here is a link to the last post referring to the help title:
https://forum.eurofurence.org/index.php/topic,3284.msg37023.html#msg37023
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I very much approve of panel ideas this early! There is little use in waiting until 2 months before the convention, and then trying to get it all organised in the last few weeks.
You are right - if the rumours are true, it would be fitting indeed. Even if it wasn't, I still kinda like the idea as it is something different from the usual and thus gives visitors more choice. And I bet we could get Kage to drag a load of people there so he can finally show just how experienced he is with white wine =P
What I like most about this post is the list of possible issues: you seem to be thinking ahead and even contacted Kage already. I am not in a position to give you answers or solutions to your points, but those who are in such a position have almost a year to get these answers ready because you are so early and did some thinking already. I very much approve!
In all, I like the idea, the thinking done so far and the timing of posting this. I'd even like it if others followed your example. =)
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Hi there!
We had a "Sake appreciation" pannel running on EF16 and it worked fine.
1) I don't drink alcohol. I can't judge the quality and details of any alcoholoc beverage. - I asked Uncle Kage if he might be willing to be there and be entertaining as always and he said yes, but he only knows white wine. So there would be still someone needed that knows stuff about red wine.
Uncle Kage is always a good choise but having more experts running the panel is something I recommend. You can point out the differences and tell something about the wines country of origin.
2) The hotel might have a problem with large quantities of wine being drunken that are not from them (we could put some from the hotel Maritim there as well).
As long its a wine tasting and not a how-to-get -drunk-on-wine penal it's fine :)
3) Transportation - I usually come via train from Austria. So carrying 30-40 kg of wine would be pretty much impossible for me.
You can have your assortment of wine shipped to my palce and I take it along with other stuff from the storage.
4) Kage also mentioned this might have to be a Super Sponsor Event to limit the amount of people that visit.
The "Sake appreciation" was and from what I observed it worked out well (the more people in the room the more complicated such a tasting gets)
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Thank you for your feedback. Seems like it could work out. ^^
Well I will discuss with the winemaker and see how much he could give and how much it would cost. I will be back when I have heard from him (might take a bit).
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I have asked about the wine and it is within my acceptable price range.
It will be about 30 bottles (1 liter ones if I am not mistaken) of red and white wine. The winemaker will also give me some information about the wine in question (which will much likely be in German... unless he has special english ones for "further away" customers.
I will (if my brother allows) also bring 1-2 bottles of our home made vine (technically not vine since its not made from grapes but from some sort of small plum growing in our garden). Our yearly production is only 20-30 bottles which we give to friends as gifts, so I can't bring more.
We could add some vine bottles from the hotel itself to compare. I don't know how many people would come to something like that. But I doubt it would be possible to get drunk.
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Dunno much about vine brewing, but I'd be happy to bring a bottle or three of nordic mead, since I am a viking after all. Anyhow I have some ideas :
Toga party
I assume someone will put this up. Cock-tails and togas. The rest will just happen by itself I assume.
Live bands
As stated earlier, why not hire bands from withinn the fandom?
Roman spa
The more femminine variety of the fandom will really appresciate this I think. Doesn't need to be anything more fancy than a makeshift masage parlor.
General artist panel
A panel where we can meet artists discuss different trends and styles and ask questions.
The fandom past future and present
Being in the fandom for 15 years I for one would love to do a short recap of how the fandom has evolved and is continueing to evolve, for better and for worse.
Grand feast
A grand roman style barbecue.
Animallympics
Fursuit olympics. Like last years fursuit game show, only more sporty.
Theater
I trust the Pawpet show will come up with somrhing equally as stunning as last year. Or how about a fursuit theater like the one we had a few years back.
Movie screening
I'm sure there is some movie we could watch, if not what about showing Bitter Lake again? It does sort of fit in with the theme.
Ancient anhros
A panel about ancient anthropomorphic gods and legends. There are a lot of ancient anthropomorphic artifacts that relate to the fandom in one way or another, wich may be of interest.
Philisophic weivs in the fandom
A panel on how the fandom has evolved from a geeky subculture to the most accepting and diverse fandom. And what philisophies like altruism effect the current attitudes of the fandom. One might draw from the furry survey.
Story hour
Why not tell a story, some furryfied greek myths? I assume the babyfurs will love this. And while they are lulled off to sleep the rest of us can resume drinking after an entertaining story.
Babyfur event
Perhaps not fitting with the theme though, While not a babyfur myself, I find their weiv of the world facinating. I know some of you may be opposed to brining this group forth, but as this group has never really been shed much light on, I for one would love to know more about them.
Crocuis art event
Art class. Drawing after a live fursuiter.
The oracle of Delfi
Why not have a clearvoiant or tarot, paw reader do peoples fortunes. Oh did I mention I do tarot, paw readings and animal divination cards?
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In case of a wine-taste panel, i think I could bring some nice wine with me for it.
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What about the fursuit games or similar venue it could be arrange and align in way of Colosseum - Gladiators settings
Also for the wine tasting I would try make some arrangement to dispatch some wines from Sloavakia also should mention it to Hungarian furries, Areas of Danube and more east on slopes are very hight quality vineyard.
If arrangement for the panel is made I will try figure out to fill the gaps of specific types of vines to expand varieties.
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The oracle of Delfi
Why not have a clearvoiant or tarot, paw reader do peoples fortunes. Oh did I mention I do tarot, paw readings and animal divination cards?
One problem there. The Oracle of Delphi is Greek Mythology, not Roman.
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One problem there. The Oracle of Delphi is Greek Mythology, not Roman.
The Oracle of Dolphin. Problem solved, you're welcome!
HTH,
Gyro
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The Oracle of Dolphin. Problem solved, you're welcome!
m(
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Well I certainly would appreciate it if I wasn't doing this alone. If others would like to bring vine as well that would give us a great variatey :3
Love the Dolphin pun btw. :D
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Well I certainly would appreciate it if I wasn't doing this alone. If others would like to bring vine as well that would give us a great variatey :3
Love the Dolphin pun btw. :D
I'm very interested, and I wouldn't mind bringing some bottles too.
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When I read "vine sampling", I imagined something like this :)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PCnEnaBo3nk/TdAMy7d7iOI/AAAAAAAAABg/pcVmJUBET6g/s1600/fondos-escritorio-tarzan.jpg)
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When I read "vine sampling", I imagined something like this :)
Hahahaha I'm so glad it wasn't just me. I thought "well that sounds rather chewy, but then people cook and eat anything these days".
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Yeah vine sampling does sound kinda dodgy xD,
Still would love to try this out as I love wine you'd need an epic size cheese board as well i'm afraid!
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may I'm too find some bottles in my cellar... a few years collected to share with all of you=^,^=
drinking alone is no fun
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I have a friend who has recently conducted fieldwork in Borneo. Perhaps I can convince him to bring some vines from the rain forests there? ;D
Jokes aside, though, I will definitely try to make it to this event. Who am I to turn down alcohol? *lol* But do we have a connoisseur (no, not a lush :P ) with the necessary knowledge who can introduce the wines for us?
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Uncle Kage has agreed to do talk about the white vine.
But we'd still need an expert on red vine.
(Btw. What would be the proper English term for "Weinverkostung?"
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I said:
a connoisseur (no, not a lush :P )
;) ;D j/k that sounds awesome. Don't know who could do the red wines though. And about your German word, I have no idea O.o Google translate simply says wine tasting, is that what you're after?
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Please, people... it's WINE. With a "w" :) I know it's confusing, because wine is made from grapes, which grow on vines in a vineyard. So ethymologically, the two words have a certain common ancestry. But today, "wine" is the beverage, and "vine" is a certain type of plant :)
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Please, people... it's WINE. With a "w" :) I know it's confusing, because wine is made from grapes, which grow on vines in a vineyard. So ethymologically, the two words have a certain common ancestry. But today, "wine" is the beverage, and "vine" is a certain type of plant :)
Oh stop v(h)ining! ;) :P
Haha sorry, I couldn't resist. I'll shut up now and stop derailing the thread. ;D
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Please, people... it's WINE. With a "w" :) I know it's confusing, because wine is made from grapes, which grow on vines in a vineyard. So ethymologically, the two words have a certain common ancestry. But today, "wine" is the beverage, and "vine" is a certain type of plant :)
Didn't you know small typos are the best way to attract more readers? ;3
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Would be funny if, after all these typos, someone actually would show up with a piece of vine and say "Here, have a bite of this". ;D
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Would be funny if, after all these typos, someone actually would show up with a piece of vine and say "Here, have a bite of this". ;D
Or vine wine.. though, I do wonder how that would work out.
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best typo ever xD
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41xGX8YBayL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Vine sampling anyone :D?
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41xGX8YBayL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Vine sampling anyone :D?
Yush!! :D
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Time flies ^^
I have talked with the winemaker and I think I will be able to bring about 25-30 bottles. He will also give me some flyers about the wine for people to read about.
I also have a ride now which allows me transport.
Now that the two main problems are solved
My remaining questions are:
Are there any other people interested in bringing wine for this?
We still need an expert for red wine. Does anyone know one?
How do I get this event approved? Is there some form to fill out for these kind of things?
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Hello?
Nobody interested in this anymore? I am not gonna buy a ton of wine if I am not sure it will get used.
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*snip*
How do I get this event approved? Is there some form to fill out for these kind of things?
Simply talk to our event manager to get it scheduled and get the practicalities on track. I believe the person you're looking for is Riffuchs.
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Thank you Pinky :3
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Riffuchs does not reply to me either via PM nor per Email. I used the info of his page in the forum.
Or are there official addresses? I looked but I have not seen anything.
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He's currently very busy running another con taking place this weekend. I suggest you give it a week and see :)
I'm sure he'll reply to you as soon as he can. You gotta remember we're all unpaid volunteers that have full time jobs and lives on the side of doing this. So don't worry, he's probably just really busy right now :)
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*Woof*
He's currently very busy running another con taking place this weekend. I suggest you give it a week and see :)
Thanks for giving the hint, Pinky. : ) A small corrction: The con is from from next Thursday to Sunday. As I said in another thread (https://forum.eurofurence.org/index.php/topic,3669.msg35285.html#msg35285), give us some days afterwards to relax (so more about two weeks). Nothing will be forgotten. : )
*arf*
TiBoth
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Well. Still nothing.
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I am going to call this one off. It is getting too close to the convention and I plan to do some other things anyway. I don't want to do things in a hurry.
I'll just get a few bottle for friends and maybe for the auction (if one can auction something like that).
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*Woof*
I am going to call this one off.
Did you write an e-mail or PM to Riffuchs? I saw a note about the Wine Tasting in the EF wiki, but it has no further details there yet.
*wags*
TiBoth
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*Woof*
I am going to call this one off.
Did you write an e-mail or PM to Riffuchs? I saw a note about the Wine Tasting in the EF wiki, but it has no further details there yet.
*wags*
TiBoth
I have sent an email and a PM, but have never gotten a reply. And it has been 2 months since my first inquiry.
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I have gotten a reply now and I know now how to register. But I still am nervous about this since I have never held a panel before.
1) So, first I'd like to ask if somebody would be willing to help me with this? I'd be a lot less nervous if I knew I was not standing alone in the room. Preferably someone that actually drinks wine and maybe has done a panel?
2) Are there any people that would like to bring wine as well? It would be nice to have a wider selection from all over the world.
3) Does anyone know how I can contact Kage? I dunno if he remembers me talking to him last year.
4) I still need an expert on red wine. Well need is a strong word... it would be nice.
(Also how much time do I have before I have to give the definite go for this?)
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think iv got a bottle of italian red dessert wine somewhere, i nabbed a few bottles of the stuff from the La Chusa vineyard during a trip to Elba, if remembr right it was a mildy sweet wine, could bring that along if ya need an extra bottle ^_^
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I'm getting more and more tempted to see if there's a bottle of my mother's home made wine left somewhere and bring it with me should I find it. ^^
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Thanks for the offer.
Is there an autoblock from yahoo.com e-mails? I haven't gotten a reply from the event org yet and the room reservation complained about something like that.
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Is there an autoblock from yahoo.com e-mails? I haven't gotten a reply from the event org yet and the room reservation complained about something like that.
If you refer to sending mails to eurofurence.org, as far as I know, yes, Yahoo seems to generate such amounts of Spam that blocking the whole Yahoo domain was the only option for the admins. The advise would be to use another email address, e.g. gmail, for sending your mail.
*purrr*
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*Woof*
Is there an autoblock from yahoo.com e-mails? I haven't gotten a reply from the event org yet and the room reservation complained about something like that.
If you refer to sending mails to eurofurence.org, as far as I know, yes, Yahoo seems to generate such amounts of Spam that blocking the whole Yahoo domain was the only option for the admins. The advise would be to use another email address, e.g. gmail, for sending your mail.
Dang! o.o
OK, I sent him a private e-mail address of Riffuchs on behalf of the fox. : )
*wags*
TiBoth
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Thank you. I sent the email.
Although it does not look like there is much interest in this anyway. Or the thread may have too many postings. Do you think a new thread would interest more people?
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hm.. i dunno if it would.
Personally i would be intrerested to come around.
I don't know is this a Sponser/Supersponer Event now ?
I Personally like Red Wine but I don't have much experience.
Most People decide with the schedule to go to a panel or not, so i think you can only see it when the timetable finally is out.
Greetings
Nex
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3) Does anyone know how I can contact Kage? I dunno if he remembers me talking to him last year.
I spoke to a lot of people last year, and about 50% of the conversations were about wine.
I would love to participate, but please remember a very important distinction: I am not an expert on wine. I am a simple drunkard.
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I'd like to partecipate and bring some wine.
I live close to where differen kind of wines are made, so I guess I can bring something really good.
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Thanks for your replies. I got confirmation from the event staff and I am more at ease now :3
I asked for the panel to be open so people can come and bring their own wine to test.
Kage: If you do something often enough, you become an expert automatically. ^^
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I can fetch some bottles of "Põltsamaa Kuldne", a sweet apple dessert wine, if you're interested.
(http://www.felix.ee/static/catalog/pilt_190.jpg)
It's not something I'd buy for a evening with friends but some classy restaurants serve it as "Estonia's own wine". If not an extraordinary wine, you can have at least one more country listed.
Põltsamaa also produces wine from redcurrant and blackcurrant, may as well bring the whole set, or just stick with couple of bottles of apple.
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All wine is welcome. ^^
And you don't have to buy expensive wine. Just bring something from your area.
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I'll bring a bottle
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Ok, so if this is going to be an open panel (not for super sponsors only) I will participate as well.
To the Italian folk: do you allready know what kind of wine you will bring? Beeing half Sicilian, I would like to throw in a bottle of Nero D'Avola of course ;)
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Ok, so if this is going to be an open panel (not for super sponsors only) I will participate as well.
To the Italian folk: do you allready know what kind of wine you will bring? Beeing half Sicilian, I would like to throw in a bottle of Nero D'Avola of course ;)
I'll see what I can do about it :p
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And you don't have to buy expensive wine. Just bring something from your area.
That's not really expensive. ^^
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Mead yay or ney?
While not technicly wine, Mead is often described as honeywine, Want me to bring a bottle of homebrewed Norwegian mead?
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I won't discriminate against other beverages, bring what you think is fitting :3
Also the panel will be open, yes.
And I bought the basic stock of Wine. 30 bottles. 15 white, 15 red from the winemaker in my hometown. ^^
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Mead yay or ney?
While not technicly wine, Mead is often described as honeywine, Want me to bring a bottle of homebrewed Norwegian mead?
Mead: YAY! Please bring it! :D
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And I bought the basic stock of Wine. 30 bottles. 15 white, 15 red from the winemaker in my hometown. ^^
It sounds like you want to get us all drunk there. *giggles*
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Hardly. Seeing as it is free booze I bet many people will be there.
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This is just to close up the thread. Here is all the booze you guys brought ^^
Was much more than I expected :3
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I finaly managed to get a bottle of that Vana Tallin (a 45% Alc one), sweet gods. That stuff is strong but so good y.y .
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will there be a wine sampling this year?
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Much likely not. I have my hands full preparing for Anthrocon and it seems the beverages did not sit well with the hotel.
Also I did re-open a new thread for this: https://forum.eurofurence.org/index.php/topic,4398.0.html