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Title: unofficial PawPetShow video done - FINAL VERSION
Post by: Suran on 22.07.2012, 22:05:12
See here for the final version: http://suran.info/2013/04/28/eurofurence-18-paw-pet-show-pompeji-done/



http://suran.info/2012/09/04/eurofurence-18/ (http://suran.info/2012/09/04/eurofurence-18/)

Last year I did a video of the Paw Pet Show ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bONH7iZRb0Q&feature=plcp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bONH7iZRb0Q&feature=plcp) ).
This year I'd like to do that again but keep the gear much smaller. (Occupy less space in the center way.)
Is anyone willing to handle a small camera to record one of the large video projectors?
It is only required to place it, zoom to the screen and switch it on. Optionally exchange a battery during a break or push two buttons to change the brigthness if it turns out to be way too dark or bright.
Since the projectors are way overhead it should be easily possibe do keep the camera comfortably below eye level and thus not interfere with anyone's experience of the show.
This would not only help to cover displayed video sequences but also unpexpected fursuit actors in the audience and act as a secondary source for audio (last year the chair of the one in front of me squeaked and all microphones where obviously near that chair.).

Myself I'll try my best to have a (smaller then last year) tripod mounted camera covering the full stage in the center way (like many others) and a monopod mounted one in front of me to do closeups. (This time with a better display shade, so people behind me don't see a dimmed down but nonetheless glowing display.)
Title: Re: Helping hand for unofficial PPS video
Post by: Ragear on 23.07.2012, 20:56:50
if the amount of volunteers isn't already too overwhelming: count me in.

Ragear
Title: Re: Helping hand for unofficial PPS video
Post by: Suran on 29.07.2012, 12:21:16
Anyone else too?

Status:
Main camera rig is prepared. Only has 1/3 of the size it had last year.
Inquiring with security, in case any rules regarding tripods have changed.
Firmware modifications to the cameras are done. Brand new SD cards should
be super reliable and allow for much higher bitrates. Combined with the
modern lenses and much more experience in handling these cameras and
grading/editing the footage we should get a real good Paw Pet Show shortly
after EF. Maybe a sneak preview during EF, if the bandwidth works out.

I could still use another helping hand. Even if only to help grab the tripod
and clear the area asap when the show is over.


If someone has a sharp m4/3 or EOS lenses between 50 and 135mm I could
avoid using an old FD lens on one of the bodies. My old FD ones are quite
soft and suffer from slight purple fringing visible in last years recording.
Or 2 highly directional and good microphones that are smaller then my very
large t.bone em9900 could help to make the rig on the tripod even smaller.
Title: Re: Helping hand for unofficial PPS video
Post by: Suran on 16.08.2012, 07:58:21
Slightly more then a week left until EF.
Anyone who has some actual experience with videography have comments or hints?
(I just have the gear. Doesn't mean I have reached the point where I'm any good in using it yet.)
Title: Re: Helping hand for unofficial PPS video
Post by: Ragear on 16.08.2012, 17:36:22
as far as I know the picture goes into the glass thingie, and the monitor shows what you may see once you've found he record button and pressed it. don't send anything to chemical development...

just helping :-)

Ragear
Title: Re: unofficial PawPetShow video done BEFORE THE CON IS OVER
Post by: Suran on 02.09.2012, 21:21:27
It is done.
we have a recording of this years Paw Pet Show and the convention is not even over yet.
It is a very basic version labeled as a sneak preview and you can ask Suran at the Dead Dog Party to get it on SD card or USB stick.
(20GB)
It is currently being compressed tighter for upload to YouTube asap.
We used 4 cameras and an additional, dedicated sound recorder and may add footage of 2 additional camera angles in the final version.

stay tuned and have fun at the Dead Dog Party!
Title: Re: unofficial PawPetShow video done BEFORE THE CON IS OVER
Post by: Quincy the Raccoon on 02.09.2012, 23:38:14
I saw you working on that, and I must say: AWESOME CAMERAWORK! Will follow this thread...
Title: Re: unofficial PawPetShow video done BEFORE THE CON IS OVER
Post by: Suran on 03.09.2012, 01:30:18
(link removed, upload failed)
Sneak preview to a very early version for those who can't wait (and to prove the claim made in the last posting).
Final version will take a few weeks of work.

SunWolf: Not really. I'm just an amateur with a lot still to learn.
Title: Re: unofficial PawPetShow video done BEFORE THE CON IS OVER
Post by: Quincy the Raccoon on 03.09.2012, 07:59:33
This video is still being processed... guess we'll have to wait then...
@ Suran: You're just saying that... I saw you editing and you did a marvellous job. I'm honest in that!  :)
Title: Re: unofficial PawPetShow video done BEFORE THE CON IS OVER
Post by: Suran on 03.09.2012, 08:13:58
I just got fast in using Final Cut. Not experienced.
Title: Re: unofficial PawPetShow video done BEFORE THE CON IS OVER
Post by: Suran on 03.09.2012, 11:38:35
(link removed, upload failed again)

Uploaded again.
First upload was stuck at 51%.
Title: Re: unofficial PawPetShow video done BEFORE THE CON IS OVER
Post by: Blacktail on 03.09.2012, 12:09:44
and it´s a private video
Title: Re: unofficial PawPetShow video done BEFORE THE CON IS OVER
Post by: Suran on 03.09.2012, 22:27:23
Yes, I noticed a mistake in the version I handed out on USB stick and later uploaded.
While at it anyway I got carried away.

Fixed the intro and corrected the distorted angle and slightly off exposure when filming the projector screens, removed visible trussing and light fixtures above the stage and am waiting for the motion-tracking that's supposed to fix the monopod slightly swinging back and forth to finish.
Didn't expect the computer to take that long based on past experience.
I'll render an improved version and put that online tomorrow morning. (Or evening if the upload fails.)
After that there will be no public versions until the final one.
And I'll be really gratefull for any comment as of how to improve the sneak preview to become the final one.
After all. I'm just an amateur with 3 reprogrammed photo cameras. While out of the need to do so, I did teach myself the technical side of editing, I'm seriously lacking in experience, aesthetics, common conventions and workarounds for common issues.
Title: Re: unofficial PawPetShow video done BEFORE THE CON IS OVER
Post by: Quincy the Raccoon on 03.09.2012, 23:25:02
Still private.. could you make it viewable for everyone?  :)
Title: Re: unofficial PawPetShow video done BEFORE THE CON IS OVER
Post by: Barney on 04.09.2012, 08:38:13
Pleaaaaaaaaase make it so that we can see it?
Title: Re: unofficial PawPetShow video done BEFORE THE CON IS OVER
Post by: Suran on 04.09.2012, 23:19:08
Rendering stopped because it was out of disk space. Now it's rendering again (9 hours) and I've tried to investigate some possible DMCA/GEMA issue the content-ID system of YouTube informed me about.


Okay, third attempt of uploading completed during the night. YouTube is still rendering.
There may be advertisement and I can't make it Creative Commons due to Google believing to have identified some tune managed by AdRev Publishing.
Paw Pet Show:
(YouTube failed to process the video.)
Opening Ceremony:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3ZEb5Cd0sY
Title: Re: unofficial PawPetShow video done BEFORE THE CON IS OVER
Post by: Barney on 05.09.2012, 10:14:18
I take it the first is still uploading because Youtube tells me that video doesn't exist (yet, I hope).
Title: Re: unofficial PawPetShow video done BEFORE THE CON IS OVER
Post by: Suran on 05.09.2012, 10:26:35
Damn. 7 hours of rendering, 6 hours to upload, then YouTube "processes" the video from 04:00 to 10:00 and now suddenly tells me that it failed for an unknown reason.
I'm 500MB below the upload size limit and there is no length limit on my account.
After work I'll try to compress it down to <2GB (will take about 3h) and upload yet again. Maybe that helps.

Due to all that upload issues, I edited the start post to link to the blog post at.
http://suran.info (http://suran.info/2012/09/04/eurofurence-18/)
This way I don't have to post YouTube URLs that later fail to work anymore.
...it has to work out at some time.
Title: Re: unofficial PawPetShow video done BEFORE THE CON IS OVER
Post by: Barney on 05.09.2012, 10:31:24
Yeah that sucks. Well, I'll keep my eye open for this, yesterday I watched last years pawpet show and I thought it was a blast. Can't wait to see this one!
Title: Re: unofficial PawPetShow video done BEFORE THE CON IS OVER
Post by: Suran on 06.09.2012, 06:31:16
It finally worked!!!
This year's "Pompeii" show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWGm17lKNv0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWGm17lKNv0).

This is only a Sneak Preview.
The final version will still take weeks of not month of editing to get right.

Last year's "The Year of the Rat": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bONH7iZRb0Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bONH7iZRb0Q)

ContentID thinks a part of the background music resembles some part of a commercial tune but luckily it only inserts advertisement because of this and doesn't block the video or earn me a second DMCA strike.
Title: Re: unofficial PawPetShow video done BEFORE THE CON IS OVER
Post by: Ragear on 06.09.2012, 21:04:28
Suran: nothing short of awesome! good work, even when you call it preliminary ... glad to have been able to lend you a hand int his.

cu

Ragear
Title: Re: unofficial PawPetShow video done BEFORE THE CON IS OVER
Post by: Suran on 29.04.2013, 17:21:15
Surprise!!

http://suran.info/2013/04/28/eurofurence-18-paw-pet-show-pompeji-done/

Ejoy!  #p #p #p #p

I actually finished editing my #PawPetShow "Pompeii" video after 7 month and 1 total loss and restart.
Thanks for everyone who helped to make this possible.


Sorry that it took this long. Had to learn a lot new stuff, start over from the preview after being nearly done the first time and of cause had much less free time to do this then I originally planned for.
Things went much better then 2011 but there was still a lot to go wrong.
(Most obvious are the complete failure of our audio recorder, one camera being bumped into and going out of focus once and being overexposing another time with no way to reach it and having no way of recording the DLP projector without moving rainbows.)
We'll have at least one additional volunteed this year but we surely could use another.
Also this year we could really need someone after EF who has more experience in color grading/matching and audio processing then the enthusiastic but bloddy amateur who is writing these lines. ;)
..and, given the 3h duration of the show, a few more eyes to simply look for hickups.
Title: Re: unofficial PawPetShow video done BEFORE THE CON IS OVER
Post by: Quincy the Raccoon on 29.04.2013, 17:35:17
Just watched... and it was AWESOME!  :)
Title: Re: unofficial PawPetShow video done - FINAL VERSION
Post by: Suran on 05.08.2013, 20:30:33
2013 EF19 ....who is willing to help?
Anyone willing to take one of the cameras or a small audio recorder and push the button to make it record and stop?