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Title: EF20 unofficial Paw Pet Show recording
Post by: Suran on 06.05.2014, 21:01:16
Like last year
https://forum.eurofurence.org/index.php/topic,4695.0.html
http://suran.info/2013/11/26/eurofurence-19-paw-pet-show-end-tide/

and the year before that
http://suran.info/2012/09/04/eurofurence-18/

and the year before THAT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bONH7iZRb0Q

I plan to organise a recording of the Paw Pet Show that is as good as my limited abilities allow it.
However I need some help!

The Plan(tm)

Cameras E+F
Helpers:  MISSING, MISSING

Camera G
Helper: MISSING

Camera C+D
Helpers: Rattie, MISSING

Camera A+B
Helpers: Suran, Draconius


Help needed

As you can see above, a number of helpers are needed to operate the equipment.
It's not difficult.
You'll also be given printed instructions how to handle the camera (battery, recording indicator, sd-card slot)
and an example of what part of the stage to frame. Also some hands-on training of how to move it smoothly and what to frame while moving the camera.
We're talking about simple tasks like pushing a red button to start/stop and checking that it actually blinks.
Pushing another button if it's blury.
Switching batteries during the breaks.
Lifting the camera up when everyone stands up during the curtain call.

Also a recording of the audience during the expected standing ovations would be great!

Someone experienced with recording sound would be a great help in setting up and monitoring our master audio recording.
(It's more important then the image.)

Equipment needed

Fast SD cards (Sandisk Extreme Pro 64GB or Extreme 128GB for the Blackmagics and anything fast and large for the GH2 would be great),
batteries for Blackmagic Pocket/Nikon J1, batteries for Panasonic GH1+GH2.
Good microphones. A pair of highly directional microphones works great to get the main sound without picking up too much of the audience. Mine are decent but not very good.
Any aditional video or audio recording you have. There's is ALWAYS something important failing. So any kind of backup is greatly apreciated. Should however be at least 720p (better 1080p) and 25fps)


Timing

Last year I spend too much time on tracking and rotoscoping.
So this year I'm thinking about
2 weeks to get organised
1 week/scene for editing
1 week/scene for additional denoising, tracking, color grading
so we're looking at 20+ weeks.
Probably 24 including finishing up the "DVD menu" and stuff.
So it should be finished in late January/early February.
Title: Re: EF20 unofficial Paw Pet Show recording
Post by: Suran on 06.07.2014, 18:03:03
We still need at least 3 helpers.
1 to operate and pan a camera and
2 to look after cameras that sits still and just records.

We also may be short 1 or 2 tripods.
Title: Re: EF20 unofficial Paw Pet Show recording
Post by: Ragear on 10.07.2014, 21:40:25
I might take on a position E-G (if position G: I have no filmimg equip of my own, but could supply a mccullan photo tripod. Quality's ok as long as there's no earthquake :))

Ragear
Title: Re: EF20 unofficial Paw Pet Show recording
Post by: Suran on 10.07.2014, 21:43:03
I might take on a position E-G (if position G: I have no filmimg equip of my own, but could supply a mccullan photo tripod. Quality's ok as long as there's no earthquake :))

Ragear

Yes, that would be great. :)
Title: Re: EF20 unofficial Paw Pet Show recording
Post by: Suran on 12.07.2014, 19:27:49
Most things are organised.
additional SD-cards, tripods, video-heads and batteries ordered. (How can something as small as an SD-card be so expensive?)
laminated reference sheets for all helpers will be created. (SD-card slow, indicators and buttons on the specific camera, how the image should look like, how to focus, change batteries and SD-cards.)

We are still short 2 helpers for cameras C and D.
3 in case anyone with a room on a lower level offers to charge some batteries during act II.
Title: Re: EF20 unofficial Paw Pet Show recording
Post by: Suran on 01.08.2014, 10:01:46
2 Weeks until EF starte and we are only missing 1 helper (instead of 2).
Everything else is organised.
The last camera was shipped yesterday.

(Organisation happens via email, that's why it's so empty here.)
Title: Re: EF20 unofficial Paw Pet Show recording
Post by: Arctic Steve on 05.08.2014, 22:13:12
I could offer my assistance like last year though i've not got a decent camera and at best it's useful for backup incase something fails.
Title: Re: EF20 unofficial Paw Pet Show recording
Post by: Suran on 05.08.2014, 22:19:39
Oh, we have a great additional camera but not yet anyone to man it.
Welcome!
Title: Re: EF20 unofficial Paw Pet Show recording
Post by: Arctic Steve on 05.08.2014, 22:49:49
Sweet. The less I have to bring with me, the better.. I've repaired my tripod too since last year.
Title: Re: EF20 unofficial Paw Pet Show recording
Post by: Suran on 06.08.2014, 09:04:50
I'll set up a password protected etherpad or wiki tonight to reduce the number of emails for organizing everything within the team gets out of hand.
Title: Re: EF20 unofficial Paw Pet Show recording
Post by: Suran on 19.08.2014, 17:38:31
Hustom we have a problem!!!


Our camera lenses don't work out.
We need 2 Micro Four Thirds lenses in the 150mm range and 2 in the 100mm range.
Title: Re: EF20 unofficial Paw Pet Show recording
Post by: Suran on 20.08.2014, 01:52:41

We have cameras A+B in front, C1+C2 and D1+D2 in the middle, E+F in the back.

Status of the current desaster:

1 Camera A ready. No problems there.
2 Lens for Camera B missing and the batteries didn't arrive yet. Also fewer SD-cards then planned.
3 Wrong focal lengthes for C1, C2, D1 and D2 calculated based on floor plan and stage size.
4 Camera E may need to be moved.
5 Not enough batteries for F


For 2 we're compensating with a borrowed 14-140mm lens and a cellphonen power pack + soldered adaptor cable.
For 3 we're trying to borrow 1 Nikon and 1 Canon lens to get 2 of these 4 cameras working in full manual mode with adaptors.
For 5 we're trying to organize more V-mount batteries and an adapter plate.
We still have 2 cameras that we can't use at all because we have no lenses of the proper focal length for them.

We need on short notice:
* Any kind of Micro Four Thirds lenses in of 100, 150, 175 or 300mm for saturday night and for a while on thursday night for the test. (TONIGHT)
* or a 400mm Nikon lens (with a x0.45 BMPCC speedbooster that would become 175mm and free up a 45-175mm lens on A to be used for C2 or D2)
* a V-mount battery plate for a BMCC and V-mount batteries or 230V in the back of the audience

Title: Re: EF20 unofficial Paw Pet Show recording
Post by: Ginge on 21.08.2014, 04:23:27
If you still need a hand with any of the cameras I can help, if you need my help you can find me about the hotel doing security so just put a call out for me, if not I cannot wait to see pawpets ^-^
Title: Re: EF20 unofficial Paw Pet Show recording
Post by: Suran on 21.08.2014, 05:12:07
We have enough hands, thank you.
Only issues are with lenses, batteries or SD-cards but here we think we have a workaround and it looked fine in the
paw pet show rehersal tonight. (As far as we where able to test.)