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Title: EF20 Panel: Steadycam for Beginners - Which is the best System?
Post by: KeksTheFurry on 01.06.2014, 13:10:37
Hi there,

I do work with Steadycams for a few years now, I have a lot of experience that I made myself
(also with Systems like the M10 Freefly Rigg, Glidecam, Cheap Steadycams, Other riggs)
and I was thinking about making a panel about this topic.

One video from me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z39D1Yaugxs
If you like my work and you wonder how I made it, this panel is something for you.

What to espect:
- I will mainly talk about cheap systems under 1'000€
- I will also talk about my experience with the M10 Freefly Rigg for 15'000€ and if it is worth it
- I will compare cheap systems to expensive ones
- The panel is mainly for beginners who didn't have much experience. But in general, everyone is welcome.
If you already do work as a steadycam operator for years, this panel is maybe nothing for you because it starts at the point zero.
Also, I never visited any steadycam school or learned it from someone. All I did was making experiences myself and this is what I will talk about.

The following points will be part of the panel:
- Which system is the best for me? Shoulder Rigg vs. Full Rigg Steadycam vs. Glidecam
- How much money do I need?
- Which camera is the best?
- Which objectives are good/not good?
- Freefly M10 Rigg - Revolution or a waste of money?
- 3s dropdown vs no dropdown
- Looking professional - how important is it for the shot?
- Small vs. big systems
- The basics of steadycam operating
- All around the cam
- Magic Lantern - How to turn your cheap cam into a professional system
....



Are you interested? Please leave a reply here so that I know how many people
would like to see that. If enaugh people are interested, I would do this panel together with a friend.
Title: Re: EF20 Panel: Steadycam for Beginners - Which is the best System?
Post by: Suran on 01.06.2014, 13:43:24
sounds interesting
Title: Re: EF20 Panel: Steadycam for Beginners - Which is the best System?
Post by: Basil Lion on 01.06.2014, 23:18:34
I'm interested :)
Title: Re: EF20 Panel: Steadycam for Beginners - Which is the best System?
Post by: CleanerWolf on 16.06.2014, 20:52:39
If it doesn't interfere with other events I would like to join.
The Mövi Freefly is just one of the first hand-held systems based on brushless motor tech, I am pretty sure that like with "classic" steadycam systems, there will be brushless gimbals available for under 1000€ in a few years :)
Title: Re: EF20 Panel: Steadycam for Beginners - Which is the best System?
Post by: Akulatraxas on 18.06.2014, 20:59:07
Hey Keks,
If you have any questions concerning the event or want to us to know in advance about it please write to events@eurofurence.org so we can reserve room and resources for you :)
Title: Re: EF20 Panel: Steadycam for Beginners - Which is the best System?
Post by: KeksTheFurry on 19.06.2014, 12:43:08
If it doesn't interfere with other events I would like to join.
The Mövi Freefly is just one of the first hand-held systems based on brushless motor tech, I am pretty sure that like with "classic" steadycam systems, there will be brushless gimbals available for under 1000€ in a few years :)

It will take a few years until brushless-driven systems will be good enaugh to work as a handheld stabiliser. Today, you can only throw money out for good looking but not really good working systems.
We will discuss about that and also show our selfmade video footage with those riggs.

We don't plan to tell anyone which is the best system at all, but which systems are good for which situation. Feel free to bring your own system to the panel!
Title: Re: EF20 Panel: Steadycam for Beginners - Which is the best System?
Post by: CleanerWolf on 19.06.2014, 16:22:02
Yep, you are probably right. Looking forward to get more information about this :)
Title: Re: EF20 Panel: Steadycam for Beginners - Which is the best System?
Post by: Vector on 24.06.2014, 20:38:54
The handheld Brushless Gimbals are great for low mode shots (typically for rollers/skateboarding shots). You can buy great kits for under 500$ now (Revit uses one).

But for high angles and long shots with a heavier rig, a classical steadicam with an isoelastic arm will do the job way better.

Your panel sounds interesting but don't forget that even if you start from zero with beginners these topics are essential :
- safety
- posture
- physics
- modes & positions

Getting a bad posture/position when you're a beginner is easy and it's really hard to get rid of these bad habits.

Title: Re: EF20 Panel: Steadycam for Beginners - Which is the best System?
Post by: KeksTheFurry on 28.07.2014, 10:39:55

Your panel sounds interesting but don't forget that even if you start from zero with beginners these topics are essential :
- posture
- modes & positions
Getting a bad posture/position when you're a beginner is easy and it's really hard to get rid of these bad habits.

Oh, I never visited any school for that or something. It is possible that my posture is totally wrong D:
You may visit us and show us how you do it correct, otherwise I will not talk about this topic as I am not an expert in it.