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Eurofurence Community => Travel & Ride Sharing => Topic started by: Wawik on 25.02.2015, 22:19:06
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None of this is valid any longer.
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And if any readers have any good suggestions to share ... please add them to this thread!
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Motel One, several locations
http://www.motel-one.com/de/hotels/berlin/
There are nine Hotels in Berlin, many of them centraly located (Central Station, Alexanderplatz, and with good public transport connections. Bed numbers and addresses vary just like the price, so please have a look at the URL above for the details.
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Although it's called "Motel" it's actually a normal Hotel with modern standards, not like the Motels you might know from American crime series. ;)
I didn't used one yet but the Hotels from this Hotel chains was already recommended to me.
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The problem with being "centrally located" in Berlin of course is that it still could mean a 30-minute trek to the Estrel each way. 8)
But speaking of location, there's the A&O Hostel Ostkreuz ( http://www.aohostels.com/en/berlin/berlin-friedrichshain/ ) which is just two stops away on the S41/S42, or for the slightly better off, the 4-star Mercure Tempelhof Airport ( http://www.mercure.com/de/hotel-1894-mercure-hotel-berlin-tempelhof-airport/index.shtml ) which is still doable by a combination of trips on the S41 and U8.... but I'm afraid that's about it for relatively easy to reach accomodation. Everything else is at least 15 to 20 minutes away by public transport, and the stuff that is within walking distance has been covered above already.
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I apologize for not mentioning that. As someone who lives in Berlin I'm used to calling a trip from 30 minutes "fast", so I didn't think of it. My bad.
Before you book a room in one of these Motels make sure that the travelling route to the Estrel is comfortable for you, especially if you need to carry stuff to or from the convention. The average public transport travel time from Point A to Point B in Berlin is between 30-60 minutes, depending on the exact location and the kind of vehicle available (Underground is much faster but maybe a few minutes further away than the Bus stop etc.) In my experience you usually have to change trains 0-2 times per route though this varies of course.
On every Motel One page is a tab named "Location & surrounding area". On the left side you can find the stations and bus stops near the hotel. Click on "Berlin public transportation" to get to this official journey planner: http://www.bvg.de/en and check if the route suits you. Also check it for a travel time at 2 am to make sure you aren't stuck at the Estrel at night. :)
If you go by car use the address on the front page of the Motel and your favorite navigation system. :)
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motelplus Berlin, Silbersteinstraße 30
http://motelplus-berlin.de/en/ (http://motelplus-berlin.de/en/)
A little further away than the 2A, but still within walking distance. Rooms are cheap by the looks of things. Walk or get S-bahn from Hermannstraße or Neukölln.
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I've booked Britz Hotel on Bürgerstraße 42 for a couple of days before the con. Seems to be pretty close to Estrel.
And yeah, stayed there (they gave me a deluxe room cuz they didn't have any standard ones atm XD), 50 Euros/Night with breakfast. Totally fine, especially if you come only to sleep.
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i booked a room at park hotel blub its only 2,8 kilometres from the estrel and taxi travel costs les than 10€ each way.
its is not the cheapest hotel but still a lot cheaper than the estrel. and if you like me drive yourself parking is a lot cheaper, so much cheaper as to pay about 60% of daily taxi costs.
and if theres others staying there we might share a taxi when our plans fit.
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i booked a room at park hotel blub its only 2,8 kilometres from the estrel and taxi travel costs les than 10€ each way.
Or use public transport, bus 171 from Franz-Körner-Str. (which is South of the Parkhotel Blub), direction Hermannplatz to S+U Neukölln, then one station with the S42 train to Sonnenallee. Back: S41 train to S+U Neukölln, bus 171 direction "Flughafen Schönefeld Airport" to Franz-Körner-Str.
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hi o'wolf.
thanks a lot for the bus instructions.
its great to be able to draw on the expertise of locals.
can you also tell me about the possibilities of parking at the berlin zoo as i'm thinking of going there either before or after the con.
i almost have to use the oportunity to see the parents of my great grey owl (bartkautz in german i believe)
he was hatched in berlin zoo two years ago and i have been wanting to go there since i got him.
thanks a lot in advance.
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i booked a room at park hotel blub its only 2,8 kilometres from the estrel and taxi travel costs les than 10€ each way.
Or use public transport, bus 171 from Franz-Körner-Str. (which is South of the Parkhotel Blub), direction Hermannplatz to S+U Neukölln, then one station with the S42 train to Sonnenallee. Back: S41 train to S+U Neukölln, bus 171 direction "Flughafen Schönefeld Airport" to Franz-Körner-Str.
Oh, never mind the S41/S42, I totally forgot that the 171 bus drives directly to Sonnenallee (thank you doco for reminding me). It may take longer than the train during peak hours, though.
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its great to be able to draw on the expertise of locals.
I'm not local, otherwise I would not have suggested public transport. I just like to visit big cities. ;-)
can you also tell me about the possibilities of parking at the berlin zoo as i'm thinking of going there either before or after the con.
I'm sorry, I haven't been there yet. In general, parking in Berlin is a bit of an adventure (like every major city.) Personally, I'd avoid driving a car in Berlin as the public transport is generally quite good — don't pay attention to the bickering of the locals.
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ok thanks i think you just answered my guestion in the best way possible.
drop the car at the hotel and take the bus.. *LOL*
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taxi travel costs les than 10€ each way
I looked up some companies that rent bikes, and some offer bikes for 50 € /week. Unless you're suiting, it seems a very good option, also for visiting the city itself.
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A little late to the party, but breakfast is not included in the room rate for the Park Hotel Blub. Their website is somewhat misleading on that front, as they quote a rate that says it includes breakfast on the tariff page, but when you click through to book it turns out that it's actually charged at 12€ per person per night.
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Heya!
I am living in Berlin for more than 10 years and know a few places. So I've collected some Hostels and reasonable priced hotels. Since taxi travels are expensive, I only picked locations who are near public transportation hubs around the Estrel.
The good thing about public transportation in Berlin is: If you only travel three stations, the price for a ticket is just €1.60 (short-trip tariff). If you buy the four-trip short trip ticket, you only have to pay €1.40 per ride. Sounds good? It is! So all the locations I picked for my list are withis the three-station distance and not too far away from the next station. The price limit per person is 50 EUR, so you wont find a hotel in my list that costs more per night. Some of them has also breakfast included. Okay, let's begin:
Starting point is the S-Bahn station Sonnenallee, which is directly next to the Estrel.
One station into the west:
...located at S- and U-station Neukölln. Appr. 800 meters distance to the con hotel. You could even rent a bicycle or walk. :)
A2 Hostel (http://www.2a-hostel.de/) (Is also mentioned in the start post, many furs will sleep there)
Motel Plus (http://motelplus-berlin.de/berlin/)
...at Herrmanstraße station, distance 2 stations:
Hotel-Pension Grand (http://www.pension-grand.de/)
...at Tempelhof, station distance 3 stations:
Big City Hostel (http://www.bigcityhostel.de/)
And from Sonnenallee into the east:
... at Ostkreuz station, 2 stations distance:
1st Floor Hostel (http://www.1stfloorhostelberlin.de/)
A&O Berlin Friedrichshain (http://www.aohostels.com/de/berlin/berlin-friedrichshain/) (Also with a bunch of furries sleeping there, I got some good feedback)
(The area between Ostkreuz and Warschauer Str. is Berlin's scene quarter. Lots of bars, clubs, restaurants and rich underground culture.)
...at Frankfurter Allee station, 3 stations distance:
U inn Berlin Hostel (http://uinnberlinhostel.com/de/)
Georghof (http://georghof.com/preise/) (This is a real hotel with luxury looking interior, but affordable.)
Next level: Changing the train at Ostkreuz station and take any train you like, drive one station to the west and leave at Warschauer Str.. You are now in Berlin's party zone. Oh, lots of hostels, too. Your short-trip ticket allows changing trains, so this is no problem!
Plus Berlin (http://plushostels.com/de/plusberlin) (Has an own pool)
Industriepalast (http://ip-hostel.com/)
Eastern Comfort (http://www.eastern-comfort.com/de/boot/) (What ever floats your boat... this is a hostel boat!)
Hotel & Hostel Friedrichshain (http://www.hotel-friedrichshain-berlin.de/)
Sunflower Hostel (http://www.sunflower-hostel.de/de/)
All In Hostel (http://www.all-in-hostel.com/de/index.html)
Don't like the S-Bahn? You can also use the bus with the short-trip ticket. And using buses or trams, you can even ride 6 stations!
Knowing this, you can use the Bus line M41 (operates 24/7) from Ziegrastr stop (directly at the tip of the Estrel pyramid) to Fuldastr. stop. Takes just 6-8 minutes.
A little 100m walk through the Fuldastr. and you reach the Rixpack (http://www.rixpack.de/) hostel.
Maybe you prefer some more privacy? Berlin is full with Airbnb (http://www.airbnb.de) vacation homes.
Also good to know: The S-Bahn doesn't operate in the nighttime during working days (Pause between 1 am and 5 am). Instead, there are buses who goes all 30 minutes. At weekend nights (Friday to Saturday and Saturday to Sunday) the S-Bahn and U-Bahn in Berlin operates 24h, with a train frequency of 15 minutes.
Almost all hostels and hotels are offering bicycle rental, even the Estrel does. Ask for conditions, prices can vary!
This was my first posting here, and I hope I did it right :)
Last but not least, something to notice for next year's EF:
In spring 2016, Berlin's biggest youth hostel will open it's gates. The new official category IV (top notch) youth hostel will have 445 beds, every room equipped with shower and WC. It is located directly at Ostkreuz station and has almost direct access to the train platforms.
More informations here: http://www.jugendherbergeberlinostkreuz.de/youthhostel/
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...one important thing is that the night bus lines have no relation to the S-Bahn whatsoever. In fact, most of them are destined to replace the U-Bahn trains (that's why the N7 runs through Neukölln and Britz, because it replaces the daytime U7 train). So if you plan to go anywhere "late at night" (1:00 really isn't -that- late after all), I can only advise to you to check out the night bus network beforehand (it's available here (http://www.bvg.de/de/index.php?section=downloads&cmd=58&download=398) as a PDF file) unless you want to find yourself stuck in one of the less favourable districts of Berlin late at night. ;)
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If you don't mind a half hour ride on the (24 hour) M41, there are some hotels around "Anhalter Bahnhof" with availability. As a rough guide, prices range from around 76€ to 99€ per room per night including breakfast, based on two people sharing.
More specifically, the Crowne Plaza Berlin - Potsdamer Platz (https://www.ihg.com/crowneplaza/hotels/gb/en/berlin/bercp/hoteldetail), Holiday Inn Express Berlin City Centre (http://www.ihg.com/holidayinnexpress/hotels/gb/en/berlin/berab/hoteldetail) and ibis budget Berlin City Potsdamer Platz (http://www.ibis.com/gb/hotel-5058-ibis-budget-berlin-city-potsdamer-platz/index.shtml).
There are a few other hotels nearby, but prices didn't show up when I looked earlier.
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I would like to remind everyone that in July 2016, berlins biggest youth hostel is going to open just two train stops away from the estrel:
http://www.jugendherbergeberlinostkreuz.de/
Rumor has it that they are in high demand, so if you are seeking alternative accomodation, it is probably a good idea to do so early :)
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I would like to remind everyone that in July 2016, berlins biggest youth hostel is going to open just two train stops away from the estrel:
http://www.jugendherbergeberlinostkreuz.de/
Rumor has it that they are in high demand, so if you are seeking alternative accomodation, it is probably a good idea to do so early :)
For those of us who are coming from countries which do not have a tradition of youth hostels:
1) What is a "Youth Hostel"?
2) Can anyone - even those of us who are no longer "youths" - stay there?
3) In what ways is it different from a hotel (particularly one as luxurious as the Estrel)?
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A youth hostel is like a regular hostel but there is a youth hostel association in Germany, which is managing these.
Anyone can book a room, which is usually shared with multiple people like in a regular hostel.
A youth hostel is very basic, so sharing a room with multiple people, shared washing facilities in most cases and a general dining hall, where everyone can eat.
Some offer breakfast, others offer only the accommodation, so very basic.
Since this is a german network, you can also book them on their website, which is offered in english as well :)
http://www.jugendherberge.de/en
Hope this helped to clear a few things up. :)
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1) What is a "Youth Hostel"?
2) Can anyone - even those of us who are no longer "youths" - stay there?
3) In what ways is it different from a hotel (particularly one as luxurious as the Estrel)?
1. Membership
In order to be offered accommodation in a Youth Hostel, you have to be a member of the DJH or of another association of the International Youth Hostel Federation (IYHF). Guests must provide proof of such membership before being given accommodation at the Youth Hostel.
2. Membership of Persons
2.1 DJH membership cards can be obtained by all persons with a permanent residence in the Federal Republic of Germany at all DJH membership card issuing offices (including at Youth Hostels and offices of the DJH Regional Associations).
2.2. Individual guests up to the age of 26 are given the Junior Card.
Individual guests over the age of 26 and families can obtain the “Family / 27 plus" (FAM/27+) membership card.
Unmarried couples are treated the same as families, provided they live in the same household.
2.3 Foreign guests who are not members of an IYHF-affiliated association can obtain the “International Guest Card” or a “Welcome Stamp” for every night directly at the Youth Hostel.
An international guest who does not hold a membership card can purchase an International Guest Card in place of membership. He is required to buy a Welcome Stamp for each night of his stay at the cost of € 3.50. When he or she has collected 6 Welcome Stamps, the Guest Card becomes valid in all Hostels worldwide or entitles the holder to reduced rates for his stay. Validity is 12 months from the date of issue.
Alternatively, a Guest Card with immediate international validity can be obtained at € 18.00.
----> see also: http://www.jugendherberge.de/en/basics/membership
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There's one that didn't make the cut for the big list because it only has 17 rooms:
Hotel Britzer Tor (http://www.hotelbritzertor.de/index.html), Karl-Marx-Str. 262.
A bit south of S+U Neukölln, three stars, has twins for €71 and junior suite that sleeps four people for €104 a night. A bit more upmarket than the 2A, but pretty tiny.
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I've set up an interactive map, just click on below static map to go to it:
(https://yaina.de/static/gps/ef-hotels.jpg) (https://woelfisch.de/blog/eurofurence-overflow-hotels)
Corrections and additions welcome.
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I'd like to remind you to take a look at the cancellation options/ fees of these hotels!
If you are booking a room in the hope of still being admitted to the Estrel check that you don't have to pay too much for cancellation or choose an option with free cancellation.
@ hotel liaison: can't you move that hostel ship thingie in front of the Estrel for a few days?? :) (just kidding)
br
Ragear
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By the way, the Park Hotel Blub has been sold this year and is now called "Centro Park Hotel Berlin-Neukölln".
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Two more things to consider if you fancy a fast and frequent connection between your overflow hotel and EF:
Generator Hostel Prenzlauer Berg
https://generatorhostels.com/destinations/berlin/prenzlauer-berg
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Vienna House Easy Berlin
https://www.viennahouse.com/de/easy-berlin.html
andel's Berlin
https://www.viennahouse.com/de/andels-berlin/
The Generator is a large hostel with over 850 beds in rooms ranging from 1 to 14 beds, the Andel's is a 4-star hotel (similar to the Estrel) with 550 rooms and suites. The Vienna House Easy is a three-star boutique hotel with 155 rooms, directly opposite the Generator Hostel.
All three are situated directly next to the S-Bahn station Landsberger Allee, which has fast and frequent connections to S Sonnenallee via the S42 and S41 trains (running every 10 minutes during the day, every 20 minutes in the evening). Rooms at the Andel's are between €70 and €90 per night for the period of EF.
There is a small caveat to these two places, however. During weeknights, there is no train service between 01:20 and 04:20. There is a night bus / tram connection, but it takes an hour to get there (or 59 minutes, to be pedantic.) On weekends, i.e. the nights Friday/Saturday and Saturday/Sunday however, there are S-Bahn trains every 20 minutes throughout the night.
It's literally a 200 meter walk from the Estrel, a few minutes on a train and a 100 meter walk from Landsberger Allee station. If you haven't booked a bed yet, give these two a consideration.
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Thanks! I've updated my interactive map at https://woelfisch.de/blog/eurofurence-overflow-hotels (https://woelfisch.de/blog/eurofurence-overflow-hotels) I mentioned above.
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Word of advice from a seasoned EF-er: The buses in Berlin are TERRIBLE, especially the M41. The last 2 times (EF21 and 22) when I journeyed into Neukolln on that bus, the inbound leg was fine but the return was 15+ minutes late and absolutely packed full of (loud, noisy, stinking) people.
I will in the future only use the Bahn to get around the area, even if it means having to transfer between trains, and that's my advice to anyone else going beyond walking distance. The Bahn rarely keeps you waiting and doesn't get quite so crowded.
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Performing some serious thread necromancy here...
Just note that the information in this thread is severely out of date, many of the places mentioned have either changed names or stopped existing entirely and with Covid-19 the whole situation still is rather dynamic.
An up-to-date list of options always can be found on the EF web site. 8)