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Off Topic => General Furry Talk => Topic started by: BlackWolfFenris on 04.04.2008, 00:15:17

Title: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: BlackWolfFenris on 04.04.2008, 00:15:17
Well ... hello there fellow furs ,
I read an article about experiments with human and animals genes and it said that the first chimeras (human-animal) creatures were created. Well ... it was just a test and they said that they'll maybe use to provide mankind with new vitals. Genetic engineering , cloning and stuff are very hard subjects. Is it allowed or not? ...
But well if it's really possible to create chimeras ... we are one step closer to create real furs.
What ya think? Feel free to discuss everything related to this here.  ;)
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: Cheetah on 04.04.2008, 00:51:34
Well, as far as I know they exchanged mitochondrial DNS only ... but even if they were to combine animal and human DNA in some other random fashion, the result would not be able to grow beyond a bunch of cells, as an organism is a pretty much fine-tuned machine, and simply mixing up DNA from two species is like mixing pages of blueprints of cars and motorcycles. Sure. You'd still get lots of parts built. But you'd never be able to assemble them :)
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: BlackWolfFenris on 04.04.2008, 09:34:00
Hehe ... that's what genetical engineering is all about , still a long way to go , and lots of new things to discover ^^
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: Barney on 04.04.2008, 10:32:11
That way the collars and leashes on the consite would serve an even better purpose, only I pity the furson who has to walk them ;D.
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: Cheetah on 04.04.2008, 12:51:57
That way the collars and leashes on the consite would serve an even better purpose, only I pity the furson who has to walk them ;D.

If you want to walk one of those hybrids, you can simply put the petri jar in your pocket.
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: K9Primate on 04.04.2008, 20:11:06
That way the collars and leashes on the consite would serve an even better purpose, only I pity the furson who has to walk them ;D.

If you want to walk one of those hybrids, you can simply put the petri jar in your pocket.

@ Cheetah, Nah that's much too realistic, use your imagination!  ;D

@ Barney, I don't think I'd mind having to walk a few actually, ;) but if you mean all of them, then that would indeed be a bit overwhelming methinks. :P
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: Nekotorisha on 04.04.2008, 23:54:39
so here is THE question.

if they invent.....let's say....a pill that would make you grow fur, a muzzle, tail, anything you like in any shape and colour you wish. WOULD you do it?

i'm curious about your answers. why or why not.

i think i'd do it. even though you'd probabaly be rejected by society.
but it would be a dream for me to come true.

*huggles*
nekoto
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: Barney on 05.04.2008, 00:15:43
so here is THE question.

if they invent.....let's say....a pill that would make you grow fur, a muzzle, tail, anything you like in any shape and colour you wish. WOULD you do it?

i'm curious about your answers. why or why not.

i think i'd do it. even though you'd probabaly be rejected by society.
but it would be a dream for me to come true.

*huggles*
nekoto

Any release date known yet? Yeah, I'd do it. Would make a nice difference to the life I live now.
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: BlackWolfFenris on 05.04.2008, 03:51:54
Same here ... would love to try it out. And I'm sure I would like my new self a lot.
But it would need some time to get accustomed to it. The new senses may be a bit
confusing , like hearing a few times better ...  ;D
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: K9Primate on 05.04.2008, 21:41:09
Yes I would probably do it, although I wonder how one could hold his own in a world full of normal humans. ::)
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: Nekotorisha on 06.04.2008, 02:05:44
í'd get night vision....WICKED.
and i could jump really REALLY high.
and great hearing ofcourse.

yeah. i'd totally do it.

*huggles*
nekoto
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: Nikoshi on 06.04.2008, 20:55:41
í'd get night vision....WICKED.
and i could jump really REALLY high.
and great hearing ofcourse.

yeah. i'd totally do it.

*huggles*
nekoto

Plus bending your body into all sorts of weird possitions which might be rather fun  ;) ;D

But yeah... I would do it without any hesitation. It would make the world a more interresting place I think. Plus you don't have to clean, repair, wash and drag along a big suit and suit-case anymore  :P

Makes me wonder what my parents, and especially my mom, would say if they'd see me  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: Stripe Kazama on 17.04.2008, 10:58:10
so here is THE question.

if they invent.....let's say....a pill that would make you grow fur, a muzzle, tail, anything you like in any shape and colour you wish. WOULD you do it?

i'm curious about your answers. why or why not.

i think i'd do it. even though you'd probabaly be rejected by society.
but it would be a dream for me to come true.

*huggles*
nekoto

Heck yeah i'd do it ^^. Being human is boring :P
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: CodeCat on 17.04.2008, 12:30:02
So would being furry if everyone was. In general, whatever you're used to is boring.
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: Moutos Woofidis on 28.07.2008, 17:11:53
If only there were a safe way to become what we really are... :( but fooling with nature can only have disasterous results.

Better compromise with the fursuits.  They still allow us to show (off) our normal selves and keep other furries happy! :D

Other than that, we can hope that we are reborn as animals... :D
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: Moutos Woofidis on 28.07.2008, 17:31:10
So would being furry if everyone was. In general, whatever you're used to is boring.
I'm used to furries by now and I honestly can't think of anything more exciting! :D
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: Jumpy on 10.08.2008, 21:23:41
so here is THE question.

if they invent.....let's say....a pill that would make you grow fur, a muzzle, tail, anything you like in any shape and colour you wish. WOULD you do it?

Hell yes I would. Life is too short to pass up a chance to experience something like that.
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: Pony on 13.03.2009, 08:18:07
No thanks.
Although I wouldn't mind sense enhancement here and there heheh.
But no physical modifications! My body is fine and functional as it is!
I was born a human and must accept this, even though I feel very much like a horse.
A dream is nice to have, but I would never carry out a dream of that intense nature.
If I was to live the life of a horse, then I would have incarnated as one.
Clearly it's time for me again to lead a human life.
And so it shall be. :)
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: gwyndolium on 13.03.2009, 11:40:12
I think it would retarded to be fair... It looks cool in art and so on.. but would it look as cool in real? I dunno...
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: RealZero on 13.03.2009, 12:30:41
Well, for my part I'd have different reasons for different parts of this, GIVEN that it will 
be free-form possible in the future.
So, let me split this into two parts:

1. I don't really have anything against humans, of course, I am one after all and I see 
myself as a human in RL. And regarding "needs" I think our bodies provide us with quite 
anything we need to survive. BUT that's exactly it!
Our body provides us with all features to survive in the world we live today because we 
shaped our "world" to our needs. But comparing us to other lifeforms there are many parts of 
the human body which are underdeveloped, maybe "effeminated" to use another word. Of course 
I don't NEED fangs and claws, for example, in this world, this society. Of course I don't 
need to lift 10 times of my own weight and such like some animals can. But compared to many 
animals I sometimes do ask myself why we have come to be this way.
So, yeah, if genetic engineering would someday give me the possibility of stronger muscles 
and bones, if it would allow me to have the teeth and muscles to rip "prey" like so many 
wild animals do, give me the speed to chase whatever thing without using a car, sure, come 
on, give it to me. No, I might not NEED it right here, but it would undoubtedly increase all 
chances for survival if anything like that would become necessary once again and maybe then 
it might not be totally exaggerated to call us the "most developed species".

Regarding ALL THIS text now: Please don't engage into discussions like "But that would only 
cause more people to solute their problems with fighting, hunting and killing each other" or 
anything related to that, I do realize the possibly bad parts of this, too, but it would 
totally lead this discussion to a different topic, and I don’t really want that. So, yeah, 
that's my opinion on that. (Oh, and by the way, yeah, I am in general interested in 
transhumanism science^^)

2. Now about the "furry" aspect. So, yeah, I am FOR the genetical improvement of humans SOME 
DAY, when it is actually safe enough in many ways. So, making these changes to the human 
body will surely influence the look, of course bigger muscles, bigger and stronger teeth 
would make us look different, more "primal", animal-like, but this would, that's what I 
think, not lead us to becoming our fursonas or something like that. THAT would be another 
point once again, so, maybe "cosmetic" genetic engineering. I don't want to discuss about 
this "Brave new world", "people being 'ordered' and specifically bred-topic now, that's far 
too serious right now.
So, keeping these "problems" aside, yeah, for the sake of coolness, I'd do it, I mean, 
nothing against the human body, but damn, my fursona just looks so much cooler than me.^^


So yeah, considering all this I'd do both steps, but of course I do realize that there will, 
or would, be problems with this. From general health, to political, social/moral stuff and 
so on and so on, all this topics I didn't want to mention up to now. So, this is written 
from an "utopian" viewpoint, so to say, and I don't seriously believe everything will be so 
easy and "dandy", but if it would be, for the sake of genetic improvement as well as 
coolness, yeah, this topic really is interesting to me.

Oh and about "the future", yeah, I think genetical engeneering will be a big part some day in the future, but until people change their look completly to "fursonas" just for "coolness", I think that is even further ahead and will take even much more time.

Thanks for reading, and please don't rip me apart for maybe not thinking every single point 
through and through.

Greetings,
RealZero
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: Shiro on 13.03.2009, 16:50:23
for that question, i must admit my answer is... I dont know

I might do it, becase i can sure see alot of awsome things with it.
But sadly the general people have always hated what is different.
In that department i dont think the movie x-men is far off.

Alot off people "properly politicians" will go out like this.
He is a dog, he could bite your throath over with those k9 teath... and will we let our children go to school with someone who got a weapon in there body and yada yada yada..

I dont know i gess if we could find our own little place and just live there without the human influence, that could work..
Hmmm australia got a nice size   ;D
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: gwyndolium on 13.03.2009, 17:48:59
First logical step is using this kind of engineering to cute deseases and makes us humans live longer by implenting animal parts to take over failure human parts or to work out defects in our DNA.
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: Barney on 13.03.2009, 22:18:46
First logical step is using this kind of engineering to cute deseases and makes us humans live longer by implenting animal parts to take over failure human parts or to work out defects in our DNA.

That almost sounds like what the Borg were doing... a bit creepy there...
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: Runo on 14.03.2009, 04:36:50
First logical step is using this kind of engineering to cute deseases and makes us humans live longer by implenting animal parts to take over failure human parts or to work out defects in our DNA.

You mean like so?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVebMKT3uDs[/youtube]

 ;)
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: gwyndolium on 14.03.2009, 12:53:57
First logical step is using this kind of engineering to cute deseases and makes us humans live longer by implenting animal parts to take over failure human parts or to work out defects in our DNA.

You mean like so?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVebMKT3uDs[/youtube]

 ;)

haha yeah, kittens are an awesome cure!
Title: Re: Chimeras ... our future?
Post by: Barney on 14.03.2009, 20:45:32
haha yeah, kittens are an awesome cure!

Except when you're allergic to cats, like me... ATCHOUM!