The Eurofurence Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Eurofurence 25 "Fractures in Time" - Estrel Hotel Berlin, August 14-18, 2019Follow eurofurence on Twitter

Pages: [1] 2   Go Down

Author Topic: Conbook  (Read 9233 times)

Fafnir Kristensen

  • Regular Member
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 175
Conbook
« on: 06.09.2012, 14:40:42 »

just a few words about the conbook:

thank you for all the maps !!!!
maps of the rooms, maps of the dealersden, maps of the artshow
thank you for all these, they were really great, useful and much appreciated
I hope you do this again next year :)

maybe one detail that could be improved:
the days name in the event pages were written too small (imo) and I often missed them when looking for the events of a certain day.
If you look at the conbook from laster year, they were all bigger and with a much noticeable color which made them easier to see.
Logged

Cairyn

  • Art Show Director
  • Con Book
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 1405
  • Fur Stylist
Re: Conbook
« Reply #1 on: 06.09.2012, 15:44:23 »

thank you for all the maps !!!!
maps of the rooms, maps of the dealersden, maps of the artshow
thank you for all these, they were really great, useful and much appreciated
I hope you do this again next year :)

maybe one detail that could be improved:
the days name in the event pages were written too small (imo) and I often missed them when looking for the events of a certain day.
If you look at the conbook from laster year, they were all bigger and with a much noticeable color which made them easier to see.

Thanks a lot  ;D

The maps suffered a bit from last moment changes in the artist lineup, especially in the Art Show. I hope they were sufficient nevertheless... we're trying to be more accurate in the future.

As for the event list, yes, the days were printed a bit small and in the style of the events (since the headers all were 3D rendered). If we do this kind of list again, we'll look out for a better visibility. However: We're discussing switching over from a time-based list to a track-oriented list anyway (so instead of a single huge "Event" section with 10 pages, the book would have "Fursuit", "Art", "Music", and "Performance" etc. sections), since the timetables already provide a time and room overview for all the day, and it would be easier to read up on special interests. Any thoughts?
Logged

Gero

  • Regular Member
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 52
Re: Conbook
« Reply #2 on: 06.09.2012, 16:14:45 »

Could be a nice idea, but then youd miss the overview somewhat.
Other suggestions might include:
*Skip having huge section of reasturant open times in timetable, take up loads of space and is often same from day to day, put it in a special information section instead.
*Really no need to include half an hour of seating time before each major event, just state that "doors usually opening half an hour before main events starts for seating" or something instead.
*You might want to include a "Call to stations time" aka where every that wants to atend in suites should be there, specially for main fursuiting events like parade and photo, thus it makes it easier for fursuiters to plan.
*A map providing the central area of Magdeburg (just the few squares around the hotel, the shopping mall and the station.) showing where the overflew hotell is, where some good reasturants is and where you can get money and other basic items (eq shops) is located. Could also state where the parade is going and maybe some good outing spots of interests, if there is any.

However I really enjoyed the pocket timetable thingy! It was great to have in my pocket and take up whenever I needed to check times. Definately wants simular thingy next year.
Logged

Langohr

  • Regular Member
  • Country: de
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 25
Re: Conbook
« Reply #3 on: 06.09.2012, 19:33:19 »

Very informative, beautiful art: great!

Only suggestion from me: A list of contents would be useful.
Logged

Cookie

  • Regular Member
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 168
Re: Conbook
« Reply #4 on: 07.09.2012, 18:38:13 »

Mine was badly misprinted. I had some of the interview pages twice.. i just hope that nothing important was missing from it as a result of the misprinting...
A friend of mine had blak pages inserted in his..
Logged
"He's nice your uh ... uh.. squirrel?" said a guy talking about my ... ferret !

Luxen

  • The Daily Eurofurence
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 244
    • Furry.ch - das Schweizer Furry Portal
Re: Conbook
« Reply #5 on: 07.09.2012, 19:27:57 »

Very informative, beautiful art: great!

Only suggestion from me: A list of contents would be useful.
Seconded.

Personally, I wouldn't switch from time- to track-based order. Most people like to know what's going on during a certain day and then take their pick, rather than look at a "tailormade" list and risk missing other events that might have interested them too. Also, most people have more than one thing they are interested in and thus would have to check more than one list...
Logged
The Daily Eurofurence:
Now all issues available at www.eurofurence.org/EF22/daily

Jake R

  • Fursuit support
  • Country: nl
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 332
Re: Conbook
« Reply #6 on: 07.09.2012, 19:48:04 »

Personally, I wouldn't switch from time- to track-based order. Most people like to know what's going on during a certain day and then take their pick, rather than look at a "tailormade" list and risk missing other events that might have interested them too. Also, most people have more than one thing they are interested in and thus would have to check more than one list...

I believe the idea is that, since this info is already in the per-day timetable, the descriptions don't also need to be listed chronologically. And the descriptions wouldn't be spread over multiple lists, just sorted differently. Or have I misunderstood what you are saying?

[edit:] choice of words [/edit]
Logged
Did you know? Smiles are contagious. Try it!

Cairyn

  • Art Show Director
  • Con Book
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 1405
  • Fur Stylist
Re: Conbook
« Reply #7 on: 07.09.2012, 20:44:59 »

Mine was badly misprinted. I had some of the interview pages twice.. i just hope that nothing important was missing from it as a result of the misprinting...
A friend of mine had blak pages inserted in his..

I hear that quite often this year, although it is still the same printer as always. So far it fortunately was always additional pages, not missing ones... I wonder how prevalent the issue actually is.
Logged

Cookie

  • Regular Member
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 168
Re: Conbook
« Reply #8 on: 07.09.2012, 20:47:44 »

As long as i'm not *missing* pages...i don't mind to have a thicker conbook!
;)
Logged
"He's nice your uh ... uh.. squirrel?" said a guy talking about my ... ferret !

Cairyn

  • Art Show Director
  • Con Book
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 1405
  • Fur Stylist
Re: Conbook
« Reply #9 on: 07.09.2012, 20:59:25 »

I believe the idea is that, since this info is already in the per-day timetable, the descriptions don't also need to be listed chronologically. And the descriptions wouldn't be spread over multiple lists, just sorted differently. Or have I misunderstood what you are saying?

No, that is pretty much it. The timetable is meant to be the primary way of orientation and navigating through the day. The event lists (however organized) will then provide details. As a neat table which can be read by room or by time, the timetable is a lot more readable than an event list where you have to have one eye on the time/location bullets and the other on the description, and where one time may even be spread across a page break.

Fact is that we have lots of events this year which no longer appear in the event list but have their own pages. Art Show, Dealers' Den and Fursuit Photoshoot were listed with the events last year, but that created a terrible redundancy and made the event list actually less readable. So I have cut them from the list this year. Also there are events, like the Motorfurs Meeting, that have additional info (the map) that is hard to display in the regular event list. And finally there are the recurring events...

I can see the argument, but there is little that a chronological event list has to offer that the timetable would not be able to provide.

(Not to mention the internal logistic advantages.)
Logged

Drift

  • Art Show
  • Country: de
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 371
Re: Conbook
« Reply #10 on: 10.09.2012, 14:17:14 »

BIG cheers for the conbook! It is informative (specially if you can not use apps.) plus a beautyfull souvenir of the con. The contents have been neatly arranged, the art is just outstanding - 2 thumbs up :)!

Only one thing: I was really missing the storry(ies) :'(
I loved those in the previous years. Was there a special reason for them not beeing in the book, or could you just not find anyboddy writing some?
Logged

Cairyn

  • Art Show Director
  • Con Book
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 1405
  • Fur Stylist
Re: Conbook
« Reply #11 on: 10.09.2012, 14:34:06 »

BIG cheers for the conbook! It is informative (specially if you can not use apps.) plus a beautyfull souvenir of the con. The contents have been neatly arranged, the art is just outstanding - 2 thumbs up :)!

Only one thing: I was really missing the storry(ies) :'(
I loved those in the previous years. Was there a special reason for them not beeing in the book, or could you just not find anyboddy writing some?

There hasn't been one in last year's book either (unless you count the mini-scene that started the book). I guess you can call them victims of the expanding con-related content - with the seating/hanging plans, expanded event parts, and even larger Sponsor's list, we are close to the physical limit of what's possible with this type of binding.
Logged

draconigen

  • Webmaster
  • Website Team
  • Country: de
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 548
Re: Conbook
« Reply #12 on: 10.09.2012, 15:31:11 »

[...] with this type of binding.

intriguing... :}
Logged
Avatar (c) 2017 Orphen Sirius

Cheetah

  • Chairman
  • Administrator
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6312
Re: Conbook
« Reply #13 on: 10.09.2012, 15:33:28 »

I loved those in the previous years. Was there a special reason for them not beeing in the book, or could you just not find anyboddy writing some?

This was also an editorial decision based on the evaluation "how many pages do we have" and "what do people actually read" - stories blow up the page count of the book, but it's the least useful, and least interesting feature. So it was the first to go.
Logged
yours,

Cheetah

Cairyn

  • Art Show Director
  • Con Book
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 1405
  • Fur Stylist
Re: Conbook
« Reply #14 on: 10.09.2012, 16:47:56 »

it's the least useful, and least interesting feature

If we had an award for the least read text, it would probably go to the Rules of Conduct ;D

But seriously, I would like to know what parts of the con book are most interesting? Were the new seating and panel plans successful, even with those pesky last minute changes? Who reads the advertising? Did we hit the spot with GoH and Charity pages? Would the timetables be more useful earlier in the book? Are there events you'd like to be spotlighted? Does the book help you in your decision which panels to visit?
Logged
Pages: [1] 2   Go Up