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BHO:
--- Quote from: Cairyn on 07.09.2012, 16:42:30 ---Well, we do have that photo guide, don't know whether you've seen it:
http://www.eurofurence.org/EF18/policies_artshownewcomer.html
To show the actual usable holes, I would need to have a photo of the disassembled framework, I guess.
If you like, you could make photos of your art hanging from the highest available hole... I'm not at MMC, as always.
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I must admit I have not. I think it wasn't wise from me to skip that section because I didn't see myself as a newcommer. My mistake and I promise to improve on that! >_<
I will talk to BP when MMC sets up the art show again, so we can talk about which photos and which information might be useful. :)
Fafnir Kristensen:
--- Quote from: BigBlueFox on 07.09.2012, 16:46:08 ---You should be able to tell. If it was gone after housekeeping was there, then they got it. :)
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well I usually do that the last day before going out of the room for the last time, so I never know what happen next
Schorse:
--- Quote from: Cheetah on 07.09.2012, 16:07:55 ---
I know what happened with them. Many furries left their rooms in a state of complete mess - crates of beer standing around, dirty clothes strewn all over the floor, giant inflatables taking up all the space, piles of trash on the floor. It took housekeeping on average three times to service a room than it does with normal guests. Some attendees had to pay extra cleaning fees up to €600 for the removal of bodily fluids and drink spills.
If people do that, naturally, service quality as a whole suffers.
Although, sometimes, leaving a little tip and a small thank you note could make all the difference for the shit housekeeping (quite literally) has to put up with. Be nice to them, and they will be nice to you.
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Well, our room was one which was filled with the big inflatable toys. But there was no problem with the roomservice. They came in and we agreed that they just empty the waste bucket and clean the bath, since the main room was not dirty at all. Everyone was very friendly.
I also have to give a special thanks to the house technican.
My roomie is an engineer and asked if it's possible to see the emergency generator. So we didn't just see that one, but the technican gave us an one hour show of the electrical and water system of the hotel.
Also of the tech room for the pool, which was very helpful to understand and prevent the problems with overflooding we had in the years before.
When we had this little special event at the pool on Friday night (filling the pool with inflatables), the technican came by a few times and kept an eye of the poolsystem. So everything went smoothly without any problems.
Ralesk:
--- Quote from: Cheetah on 07.09.2012, 16:20:36 ---But then, that's not what it takes to run a bag drop for 1300 people.
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I perfectly understand that running a bag drop for hundreds of people is out of the scope for EF Security, which is exactly why I've been offering these ideas of compromise.
Moving the pile inside the room (to the entrance, nevertheless, but inside) adds more security without severely burdening EF Security. They can still say we're leaving our stuff at the designated place on our own accord and they have no responsibility if things get lost. At the same time, the items are by default protected from the public, because the public are – by the workings of the Art Show – filtered out. One person inside that assures you get rid of your cameras isn't that much of a hassle — the entry guys could be simply split to be on both sides, there's always like three of them lounging around the Art Show entrance anyway.
Pros: almost a non-issue for Security, better conditions for con-goers.
Cons: still a pile, no promises on getting your stuff back. (but certainly isn't worse than now, so we don't care)
Next level: Get a table to put stuff on it or under it. Don't promise anything more. Has a one-time setup, and gives bigger comfort to people by making it possible to leave your stuff not in a pile but in a more cultured fashion,
Pros: non-issue for Security, significantly better conditions for con-goers.
Cons: still no guarantee on getting stuff back (again, isn't worse than now).
In short, yes, I know I keep repeating myself, but I really don't expect you guys to run a proper bag drop (if I wanted that, I'd go to the reception), but somehow the topic always curls back to that — all I'd like is to be able to move my stuff to the other side of the door, without any more guarantees or services provided by con staff. It would be "good enough" and "better than now" — not perfect, but I personally don't care about that.
Cheetah:
Nah, sorry, if we run a bag drop, we do assume responsibility. Such as, we must make sure that people can only take out what they put in. And you have to keep in mind, there might be queues, so that takes extra crowd control measures. And you need a plan what to do with items left behind. We should either do it right, or not at all, that's my opinion.
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