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Official Statement Regarding the Policy Debate on Twitter
kooriki:
Ah Ghostbear - You say dungarees and teddybears are ok but I don't get that from the official rules and general discussion over the last few weeks. Even aside from that, with the whole ageplay issue being a hot debate this last few weeks I wouldn't want to risk attending this one as a known babyfur. Once EF21 is done we can see how welcomed the cubs that did attend felt it went; Both from staff and regular attendees. The rules might not be different for this EF, but the discussion certainly has been. To be honest it's a pretty big trek to risk being confined to a couple of cub-friendly hotel rooms. Saying that, if you've gone as a cub and had no problems in previous years, that says a lot..!
Cheetah: Good to hear. I think you're talking about 'the bottom line' blurb at the bottom of that page? What you wrote here is MUCH clearer than whats on the rules page. Maybe next year they can have you write that page, you're articulate :)
Eisfuchs: :(
Cheetah:
--- Quote from: kooriki on 22.06.2015, 21:29:48 ---I wouldn't want to risk attending this one as a known babyfur.
--- End quote ---
Some of our staff are babyfurs. And they never had any problem with our rules of conduct, or fellow staff members.
Ghostbear:
Kooriki, please take a look at the group pictures (and other pictures) from the last couple of years if you find the time. And then try counting the amount of plushies being carried around on the con. Plushies are such a big part of the furry fandom, they are not counted as "age play" items.
And for a pair of overalls/dungarees ... they are normal pants you can buy in stores. So I see no problems there as well.
meo:
Ok, some cents from someone who was last year at the Con.
At first lets face it, EF ist a BIG convention where lots of cultures comes together. It happens that someone trends to think about some items in another way as some other person. The Rules are written in a style so everyone can have fun (in my opinion). If you want to wear a playsuit do it at your room. There is no Bulling by that words! See it from the perspective of someone who is not into your fetish, Kink or whatever you call it.
Everyone can pick a part of the rule he doesn't like and mock the whole day, but ask yourself if that rule makes a relevant impact for you in having fun at a convention?
Is a pacifier worn in a public place an Item you need so bad to have fun? Aren't the human interactions at a convention that what makes the fun?
Think about it.
The moral standards of someone can prevent that he talks to you and you maybe couldn't be friends. I wouldn't want that to happen. I want to have Fun and make friends! I don't want a fetish to hinder me from going to a con.
Yes, you might say "Ageplay is not a Fetish" but ask yourself if you can live without it for the hours your in public? That's all the rules are asking you for!
kooriki:
--- Quote ---If you want to wear a playsuit do it at your room.
--- End quote ---
Thankfully the staff have clarified this and said that if its done tactfully and not overt then it's ok to wear what you like. Lets be honest, EF is a long way to travel to have to hide in a hotel room!
--- Quote ---See it from the perspective of someone who is not into your fetish, Kink or whatever you call it.
--- End quote ---
Closer to LARPing or a subculture/fandom, but call it what you like.
--- Quote ---The moral standards of someone can prevent that he talks to you and you maybe couldn't be friends.
--- End quote ---
If my hobby is so upsetting to someones morals then they wouldn't make a good friend anyway. We all can choose who we associate with. I personally avoid smokers for example - I don't like cigarettes stinking up my gear/clothing - yuck!)
--- Quote ---Yes, you might say "Ageplay is not a Fetish" but ask yourself if you can live without it for the hours your in public? That's all the rules are asking you for!
--- End quote ---
Lets look at it from the other side: Most people think of furries and the fandom as a fetish (Not far from the truth either). Would you be comfortable with a rule "No fursuits or furry accessories in areas the public can access"? Probably not, because we don't care if a couple of fools think the con is an organized fursuit orgy or are creeped out by dancing forest critters.
Anyways, Cheetah has been kind enough to (re)re-articulate EF's official policy on the issue which is good enough for me...!
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