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Title: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Kyron on 15.02.2011, 16:15:22
Hi!

There was no EF 16 video thread, so I decided to make one! :)

I want to show you two videos from Eurofurence 16 that I had made. A older one that a couple of you might know and a new one.

The old one: Eurofurence 16 - Portraits http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkFJPN9i0nE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkFJPN9i0nE)

The new one: ...just a dumb american! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE01WOiggmg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE01WOiggmg)

Enjoy! :)

Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: CleanerWolf on 23.02.2011, 01:37:41
Nice videos, thanx for sharing :)

On Youtube you mention "35mm" equipment. Can you provide more information about this? What type of camera and lens was used? The lens seems to suffer under vignette (getting darker in the corners). Or is this a filter?
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Kyron on 28.02.2011, 14:33:56
Nice videos, thanx for sharing :)

On Youtube you mention "35mm" equipment. Can you provide more information about this? What type of camera and lens was used? The lens seems to suffer under vignette (getting darker in the corners). Or is this a filter?

Thanks! :)

The camera I used was a Sony HDR HC-5 with a JAG35Pro 35mm adapter and a canon FD 50mm f1:1,4 lens.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2738/4247570679_689d0189c4.jpg)

A 35mm adapter is used to work with SLR lenses on a normal video camera like my sony HC-5. The general idea is to get a shallow depth of field. Unfortunately, most of those adapters are very light hungry and thats the reason for this vignetting effect in my video.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/35-Millimeter-Adapter (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/35-Millimeter-Adapter)


Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: CleanerWolf on 01.03.2011, 00:56:34
Ah, thanx for the info.
It's an interesting proof-of-concept that allows professional focus adjustment workflow with a consumer camera.
 
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Cheetah on 01.03.2011, 01:27:06
I think it does more than prove the concept. It indeed allows you to shoot some really awesome video footage in a very affordable way, which I'd say is pretty useful, and pretty ingenious :)
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: James The Dog on 01.03.2011, 05:04:08
Oh dear, that's me in the first video, pointing and grinning like an idiot and pulling someone into shot XD
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Kyron on 03.03.2011, 19:10:08
Maybe a second part of my first Eurofurence 16 video with some random EF16 footage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF0I721j1gs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF0I721j1gs)

Enjoy!
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: CleanerWolf on 04.03.2011, 00:35:08
@Kyron:
I officially confirm, that your videos represent the atmosphere in the hotel lobby perfectly. They bring back some good memories.

How much did the camera rig setup on the photo cost? (without the tripod)
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Kyron on 04.03.2011, 11:36:21
@Kyron:
I officially confirm, that your videos represent the atmosphere in the hotel lobby perfectly. They bring back some good memories.

How much did the camera rig setup on the photo cost? (without the tripod)

Thanks for the compliment! :)

I'm using a low-cost rig. The DOF- or 35mm-adapter from Jag35.com cost 300$. The D|Focus follow focus I'm using cost 100$ and a lens gear 30$. A used canon FD 50mm f1:1,4 lens costs about 50$ and a cheap rod support about 50$.

My complette rig including the camera cost about 900$.
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Bartimaeus on 25.03.2011, 12:08:46
Well I have something to share :D

Pawpet Show "Ogwambi" HD (1080p)

Part 1: www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRwf4mz9TKM
Part 2: www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA_0kt17u_0
Part 3: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIQkCiETzIM
Part 4: www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkAn8MdRlDI
Part 5: www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQVNoVybbBw
Part 6: www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyVT4zen0rs
Part 7: www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9_AgZZSsy0
Part 8: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp1wCIHO0gY
Part 9: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcof2ctu7KM
Part 10: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxAGKci52O4
Part 11: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtBYitm-rCU

Uncle Kage vs. 2  HD

part 1 www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu4RN6F9B1M
part 2 www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlbwCBvy2rE
part 3 www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP_sCPtjy4M
part 4 www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPDBupEryiM
part 5 www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ88OeYhfcw

Uncle Kage's Science Pseudoscience & Crap

part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIhqJD4flR8
part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQUSSNx2s2c
part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPMW3ya4uGY
part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOF2A_g6ed8
 
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Zefiro on 25.03.2011, 23:09:46
Uncle Kage's Science Pseudoscience & Crap
Many thanks! I really wanted to see this, but didn't manage, so this is greatly appreciated :)
Edit: actually, is there a recording of the rest of it available?

Pawpetshow, too. I'm not used to see it from the front.

*purrrr*
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Bartimaeus on 26.03.2011, 00:28:55
Edit: actually, is there a recording of the rest of it available?

Not by me...
The battery died and I dint have a spare :(
I wasn't the only one filming though...
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Suran on 27.03.2011, 10:01:36
It's nice to have a recording that everyone can see. :) Ahhhh, the memories. :)
Thanks a lot!
Is there some torrent of sth. of the full Ogwambi-recording before youtube recompressed
it? That would be great!

Pseudoscience is a bit shaky in places. I guess you had to film from your shoulder/hand?

Kyron: Did you use the 50mm at f1.4 in the Ogwambi-recording? Mine is a bit soft at f1.4 and
I need to step it down to f2.0 for perfect clarity. I'm surprised how well the 1/3" sensor did keep
up in Ogwambi though. Even with this fast lense. I guess being a video-camera it just has much
larger pixels to gather light on.
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Bartimaeus on 27.03.2011, 10:23:37
Is there some torrent of sth. of the full Ogwambi-recording before youtube recompressed
it? That would be great!

Umm... 1080p not enough for you? I don't see much difference from the actual files that I've uploaded.
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Suran on 27.03.2011, 10:30:55
Umm... 1080p not enough for you? I don't see much difference from the actual files that I've uploaded.
You don't? I see a lot of jpeg-like artifacts and color banding in dark areas when played in YT in 1080p on a 1080p lcd.
Maybe it's a dynamic bandwith-thing. That my DSL downstream just can't keep up and the YT-player reduces the requested bandwith.
Will try to find a way to download from YT to my local disc. (I'm sure there are dozens of programs to do that.)
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Bartimaeus on 27.03.2011, 15:30:56
Well theres a 33Gb raw unedited video, of course it has better quality :D
I deleted it though xD

Dimonius has it, he's going to edit it himself and then make public on his ftp.
There are links to his ftp here: https://forum.eurofurence.org/index.php/topic,2691.0.html

Are there any videos of Pawpet Shows from before EF14?
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Kyron on 29.03.2011, 19:45:13

Kyron: Did you use the 50mm at f1.4 in the Ogwambi-recording? Mine is a bit soft at f1.4 and
I need to step it down to f2.0 for perfect clarity. I'm surprised how well the 1/3" sensor did keep
up in Ogwambi though. Even with this fast lense. I guess being a video-camera it just has much
larger pixels to gather light on.

I didn't film anything during the Ogwambi show... I had to much to do behinde the stage. ;)
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Bartimaeus on 31.07.2011, 23:56:12
The Yokai http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNwOaOpa_kI
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: CleanerWolf on 07.08.2011, 22:51:28
Finally I can contribute something to the list of EF 16 videos. But the release at this time (hopefully) makes it a perfect appetizer for EF17.
My video is mainly about the fursuiters of EF, so what you can expect are 14 minutes of cuteness overkill  ;)

Youtube link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfQt-ZxEEXg

If your computer and internet connection is fast enough make sure to watch it in 1080p.
I will provide a downloadable version later, but for now I want to get some feedback, so that I can still make some changes to the video, before releasing the "final" version.
So, if somebody has complaints of any kind, just tell me and I will see what I can do about it.
The video is published as "not listed", only people who know the link above will be able to watch it.

A little warning - the furdance sequence beginning at 9:16 contains strobe light and extemely rapid editing, people who are very sensitive to flashing lights for any reason might skip this part.
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Dhary Montecore on 07.08.2011, 23:45:11
@CleanerWolf: Nice work, but why that stupid warning at the beginning?
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: CleanerWolf on 07.08.2011, 23:59:04
@CleanerWolf: Nice work, but why that stupid warning at the beginning?
Well, don't you think, that the video contains "explicit images of ancient sexual behavior"?  ;D
It's just a joke and I hoped, that it would be recognized as a joke.
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Suran on 08.08.2011, 00:09:01
Very well done!
Why are all your videos on that account unlisted?
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: CleanerWolf on 08.08.2011, 01:11:25
Very well done!
Why are all your videos on that account unlisted?
Thank you.
The videos are unlisted because all of them are intended for a limited group of people, partially for privacy reasons. No adult stuff or something like that, but at every convention, some people are complaining about being filmed and then exposed as furries to "the whole world". Therefore, in respect to their privacy, I publish my con videos as unlisted. This way I hope to stop most discussions about this topic.
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Mazin on 08.08.2011, 23:52:00
Very nice! I especially liked the "active" shooting style. :) (I need to get a steadicam setup!)
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Suran on 09.08.2011, 00:59:33
Very nice! I especially liked the "active" shooting style. :) (I need to get a steadicam setup!)
I have a simple DIY-steadycam that you could borrow.
Takes a while to balance it for a new camera. With my lightweight cameras it's usually too bottom-heavy.
So I'm not using it much.
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Mazin on 09.08.2011, 01:16:19
I have a simple DIY-steadycam that you could borrow.
Takes a while to balance it for a new camera. With my lightweight cameras it's usually too bottom-heavy.
So I'm not using it much.

Hey cool, thanks! :D My camera's pretty light too, though (Canon 500D, ~700 grams) so I don't know how well it'd work on your rig.
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: CleanerWolf on 09.08.2011, 02:01:03
The easiest and cheapest way to make steadycam-like shots is to carry your tripod around with the camera mounted to it. The only real limitation is that it will not work well in tight areas.
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Zefiro on 09.08.2011, 02:08:32
But the release at this time (hopefully) makes it a perfect appetizer for EF17.
Indeed it does. Quite nice.

*purrrr*
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Cheetah on 09.08.2011, 18:12:22
A very cheap method is simply holding your camera still and not wielding it around like a weapon :)
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Cheetah on 09.08.2011, 18:14:33
Therefore, in respect to their privacy, I publish my con videos as unlisted. This way I hope to stop most discussions about this topic.

You don't have to. Every attendee signs a waiver making them agree to appearing in videos taken in public areas. Also, if you don't want to deal with these kind of problems at all, feel free to send me your files, and Eurofurence can publish them for you.
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: CleanerWolf on 09.08.2011, 21:49:21
Indeed it does. Quite nice.
Thank you :)
A very cheap method is simply holding your camera still and not wielding it around like a weapon :)
How boring :)
You don't have to. Every attendee signs a waiver making them agree to appearing in videos taken in public areas.
Thank you for making that clear.
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Also, if you don't want to deal with these kind of problems at all, feel free to send me your files, and Eurofurence can publish them for you.
BBF has all my raw footage from EF16.
If you mean the edited video - yeah, why not, I will upload the downloadable version in the next few days and send you a PM.
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Mazin on 09.08.2011, 21:55:31
A very cheap method is simply holding your camera still and not wielding it around like a weapon :)

But what if there's a singer from Belarus that I need to film (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f3mUs7rS1I)?
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: Cheetah on 10.08.2011, 12:15:37
A very cheap method is simply holding your camera still and not wielding it around like a weapon :)

But what if there's a singer from Belarus that I need to film (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f3mUs7rS1I)?

Don't do that at EF. Seriously. Don't :)
Title: Re: EF 16 Videos
Post by: CleanerWolf on 11.08.2011, 12:01:37
But what if there's a singer from Belarus that I need to film (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f3mUs7rS1I)?
Ohoh, don't give me ideas, I want a Segway now  ;D

Anyways, the downloadable version of my video "Eurofurence 16 - Something is bigger now" is now available:

Download 1280x720p25 / H264 / 650MB (http://www.cleanerwolf.de/EF16_Something_is_bigger_now_720p.7z)

Download 1920x1080p25 / H264 / 1000MB (http://www.cleanerwolf.de/EF16_Something_is_bigger_now_1080p.7z)

The password for both archives is: S3r3ng3t1

NOTE:
To save bandwidth please download the video only if you are sure to keep it on your local harddrive, otherwise watch it on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfQt-ZxEEXg) first. Download the 1080p version only if you are sure that your computer is fast enough to play it smoothly and your screen resolution is at least 1920x1080. Thank you.

If someone would like to mirror the files on his/her server, feel free to do so :)

I tested both files with VLC media player, but they should play fine on any other media player that is able to handle H264 correctly.